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Old 12-02-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost a child while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford."
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln" made by "Ford."

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and the assassin ran to a warehouse...
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and the assassin ran to a theater.

Is it explainable?

.
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost a child while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford."
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln" made by "Ford."

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and the assassin ran to a warehouse...
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and the assassin ran to a theater.

Is it explainable?

.
This was around at least 30 years ago, before there was even an Internet but it's not necessarily factual.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/linkin-kennedy/
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:18 PM
 
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coincidence, cycle of life....or how about just plain meaningless!

You can take any two people or any two events and find a similar list of similarities. Some of them are simply role of the dice probabilities - killed by a southerner? Come on, that's a 50/50 bet right there. But what's important is how they differ, and for every similiarity you have 100's of differences.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4360
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by musiqum View Post
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost a child while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford."
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln" made by "Ford."

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and the assassin ran to a warehouse...
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and the assassin ran to a theater.

Is it explainable?

.
Don't you mean that Kennedy was IN Marilyn Monroe a week before he died?

Look, this is what is (ironically) called the "texas sharpshooter fallacy." A drunk texan shoots 500 shots at a barnyard wall, look at the greatest concentration bullets, circles them, and decares that he itended to shoot in that cirlce all along.

If we knew everything that there was to know about these two, we could come up with literally hundreds of thousands of dissimilar things. For exampe, Lincoln was a Republican, and Kenneday was Democrat. Lincoln had two siblings, JKF 8. Lincoln was born poor, JFK rich. And on and on. You picked a few that are weirdly similar.

Fun party game, but not much more to it than that.
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Don't you mean that Kennedy was IN Marilyn Monroe a week before he died?
Only if he was a necrophiliac. Monroe died in 1962.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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Originally Posted by musiqum View Post
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost a child while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford."
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln" made by "Ford."

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and the assassin ran to a warehouse...
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and the assassin ran to a theater.

Is it explainable?

.
The term and concept of "civil rights" hadn't been coined/wasn't known in Lincoln's time. It was not on his radar.
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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A big disappointment! You guys just killed my enthusiastic amazement.
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Under Moon & Star
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The term and concept of "civil rights" hadn't been coined/wasn't known in Lincoln's time. It was not on his radar.
The term 'civil rights' certain was current at the time of the Lincoln Presidency and was part of American English long before.

*“Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry.”
--Thomas Jefferson, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, 1777
*"In a free Government, the security for civil rights must be the same as that for religious rights."
--James Madison, Federalist No. 51, 1788
*The Civil Rights Act of 1866 [that was the bill's title]

As for the concept? Lincoln understood it.

"The restoration of the Rebel States to the Union must rest upon the principle of civil and political equality of both races; and it must be sealed by general amnesty."
--Abraham Lincoln, writing in January 1864

The highlighted phrase clearly constitutes the notion of civil rights. In his Lyceum Address of 1838, he referred to 'civil and religious liberty' - again, there's the concept. He would use that phrase and the similar 'civil liberty' numerous times after that, including while President.

Now, as to the silly Lincoln/Kennedy list, it is hardly a surprising coincidence that two Presidents concerned themselves with civil rights of one sort or another. That fact applies to most Presidents.
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:55 PM
 
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Only if he was a necrophiliac. Monroe died in 1962.
Quite true. AND ... Lincoln's secretaries were John Hay and John Nicolay, not Kennedy.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:32 PM
 
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The term 'civil rights' certain was current at the time of the Lincoln Presidency and was part of American English long before.

*“Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry.”
--Thomas Jefferson, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, 1777
*"In a free Government, the security for civil rights must be the same as that for religious rights."
--James Madison, Federalist No. 51, 1788
At these early dates, the concept of Civil Rights didn't include people of African descent or Native Americans.
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Originally Posted by Hulsker 1856;
*The Civil Rights Act of 1866 [that was the bill's title]

As for the concept? Lincoln understood it.

"The restoration of the Rebel States to the Union must rest upon the principle of civil and political equality of both races; and it must be sealed by general amnesty."
--Abraham Lincoln, writing in January 1864

The highlighted phrase clearly constitutes the notion of civil rights. In his Lyceum Address of 1838, he referred to 'civil and religious liberty' - again, there's the concept. He would use that phrase and the similar 'civil liberty' numerous times after that, including while President.
Bravo! I stand corrected.
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