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Old 01-09-2019, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Cupertino, CA
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Gotta make sure spare parts are available for the annual Victory Day parade?

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MOSCOW (AP) — Russia’s Defense Ministry says it has received 30 Soviet WW II-era T-34 battle tanks from Laos — a move reflecting the national veneration of the weapon.

The ministry said Wednesday the tanks are fully combat-ready and will be used in military parades and for making World War II movies.
https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...nks-from-laos/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=r8jeVPh674s
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Old Yesterday, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The T-34 was a significant factor in the Soviets' ability to turn back the Nazis on the Eastern Front. Most Americans are nearly clueless about what a huge contribution the USSR made to the allied victory in Europe.
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Old Yesterday, 11:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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T-34 was overall, the best tank of the war. Fast, decent armor with a decent gun. That and there were so many made. Beautiful suspension design.
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Old Yesterday, 06:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Did they just give then away. I suspect there are some military collectors who might have paid a decent price for them.
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Old Yesterday, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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T-34 was overall, the best tank of the war. Fast, decent armor with a decent gun. That and there were so many made. Beautiful suspension design.
It's suspension was designed by American inventor John Walter Christie, who after trying to sell his design to the army, sold it to the Soviet Union and the British. The first Soviet tank to use it was the BT series of light tanks, using not only the suspension, but the idea of using sloped armor, which Christie used starting with his M1928 design.
J. Walter Christie | Military Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia

The United States never used the Christie suspension, although what became the M-18 Hellcat tank destroyer was to use it, engineers at Buick used torsion bars instead.
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Old Yesterday, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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There is still a pair of T-34 tanks sitting in front of the USSR World War 2 victory monument in Berlin, just a few hundred meters west of Brandenburg Gate. Yes, that memorial and war cemetary is still there, intact, preserved by the agreement that led to the re-unification of Germany in 1990. When I was in the US Army stationed in Germany, and for awhile in West Berlin in the 1970s, I watched the changing of the Red Army honor guard at this monument many times. These were the only Red Army soldiers that you would see in the western sector of Berlin at that time, aside from a few high ranking Soviet officers that went shopping at US military PX stores once in awhile.

How many other countries have a monument right in the middle of the capital city, within view of the national capitol (the Reichstag building) that was put there to glorify the victory of another country over itself?

In 2014, a big tabloid newspaper tried to propose the removal of the T-34 tanks, but the German government would not even consider it since it was part of the German reunification agreement with the former allied powers.
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Old Yesterday, 09:04 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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Curiously, the T-34 is still in service in a number of countries around the world.

I'm guessing that these countries either expect to:
*only face really half-assed, not-very-modern foreign opponents, or
*use their T-34s for internal suppression
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Old Yesterday, 09:55 PM
 
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T-34 was overall, the best tank of the war. Fast, decent armor with a decent gun. That and there were so many made. Beautiful suspension design.
an American invented the suspension...…….

https://www.rbth.com/defence/2015/05...ets_46135.html
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Old Today, 09:57 AM
 
Location: London
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They are T34-85s. The 85 is the upgunned version with an extra man in the turret. The Christie suspension was also used in the fast British Crusader and Cromwell tanks. The British had to greatly alter Christie's designs to get it to work properly. I assume the Soviets did the same. The problem with the suspension was that it took a lot of vital internal room in tanks. Torsion bar never. Christie was a very difficult abrasive man not getting on with top US military men. So they dropped his suspension. The Cromwell tank using the RR Meteor engine was very fast. Combined with the suspension it could "jump" canals in Holland.

The German Panther tank was based on the attributes of the T34. Hitler ordered them to copy the T34 directly, they never making a larger tank.

Daimler Benz offering which was rejected:


The T34:


The T34 in late 1941 was by far the best tank. It was also the the tank that came online in numbers to stop the German advance at the vital Battle of Moscow in Dec 1941. Although 40% of the tanks used in the battle were supplied by the British.
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Old Today, 10:09 AM
 
Location: London
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Many third world countries still use rather older designed tanks as that is all they need. The most produced tank in history is the Soviet T54-55. A superb well balance robust tank for the time it was introduced in the 50s. They were extensively sold all over the world. An American company takes these tanks and totally renovates them installing modern guns, fire control, General Dynamics engines, etc. It is far more cost effective for these counties to do this than buy Challenger 2s, Abrams or Leopards, which would be very expensive overkill for their needs. The basic T54-55 shells and turrets are still very good. The design speaks for itself.


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