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Old 01-28-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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I still cannot comprehend the reason for world war 1. Some mid sized kingdom ruler got killed by someone from serbia which was not even a small dot in europe that time..Was Germany getting too big for the traditional powers?
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Some mid sized kingdom ruler got killed by someone from serbia...
Nope. A relative of other leaders and a signator to a few feel good 18th century model treaties...
thrust among a 20th century military reality.


The first of the more reading you should have has assigned in 10th grade:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habsburg_Monarchy

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Old 01-28-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Something about entangling alliances.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was just the spark, if it wasn't that it would have just been another trivial spark.
Ahhh causes of WW1, pretty complex. Basically you had global imperialistic competition combined with nationalism and arms races from new technology, and then complex alliances that said one nation goes at war ALL nations in Europe go to war.

Actually it's easier if you just consider that all these European nations have always been at war with each other every generation for the last 1,000 years. It's what Europeans did. World War 1 was simply a continuation/spin off varies wars in the late 19th century in the Balkans, combined with the Franco-Prussian war, and the Crimean War a few years earlier, which was preceded by the two decades of the Napoleonic/French Revolutionary Wars which was preceded by the Seven Years War....going back to the 100 years war and the Norman conquests of England in 1066.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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In the end, it was the biggest family fight in history, and made about as much sense.
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Old 01-28-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was just the spark, if it wasn't that it would have just been another trivial spark.
Ahhh causes of WW1, pretty complex. Basically you had global imperialistic competition combined with nationalism and arms races from new technology, and then complex alliances that said one nation goes at war ALL nations in Europe go to war.

Actually it's easier if you just consider that all these European nations have always been at war with each other every generation for the last 1,000 years. It's what Europeans did. World War 1 was simply a continuation/spin off varies wars in the late 19th century in the Balkans, combined with the Franco-Prussian war, and the Crimean War a few years earlier, which was preceded by the two decades of the Napoleonic/French Revolutionary Wars which was preceded by the Seven Years War....going back to the 100 years war and the Norman conquests of England in 1066.
Correct. If it hadn't been his assassination, something else would have set the great powers against one another. The system of international alliances that existed without an international organization like the UN in place almost guaranteed a war at some point.

The real causes of the war have their roots in industrialization, colonialism, and nationalism. The Germans were not afraid to take on Russia, France, and Britain at the same time because they had a believe that their military had the strength to fight a successful war against all those countries at once. There was a sort of hubris or false optimism that prevailed among the Germans at the turn of the Twentieth Century. They believed they had better scientists, better technology, better military equipment, and better men than existed in other countries. Barbara Tuchman does a good job of explaining these attitudes as the Nineteenth Century ended and the Twentieth Century began in her book The Proud Tower.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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ALL WARS ARE FRAUGHT FOR ECONOMICAL REASONS.

This is answer to any question you have about why any war started.

Qui bono.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:43 PM
 
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ok.
World War One was economical.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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Some mid sized kingdom ruler got killed by someone from serbia
Austria-Hungary was not mid-sized, there were 52.8 million who were living in the empire in 1914. Compare that to 39 million French, 41 million for Germany, 34.7 million in Italy and 46 million in Great Britain. Austria-Hungary was second in population only to Russia which had 166 million.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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at the time there had already been a few small wars within the Balkans, and it was thought even that this to would blow over...because the time between the mobilization of armed forces and deployment could be weeks everybody mobilized and put forces into motion that were hard to stop....it should also be remembered that the most recent conflicts were of a short duration and most marched off in hopes of glory a short war and home by Christmas...they had no idea....


i have heard it said that actually 14 people are responsible for this huge mess
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