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Old 03-05-2019, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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David apparently was into some kinky things==at least what was kindy by the House of Windsor’s standards
And WWS had no qualms about giving what he needed...
she seems to have spread her charms around ..hahaha...even when married to Edward..
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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My view of Wallis Simpson is that she should have walked away and left the King alone because of the destruction to his birthright. Real love would not have allowed any harm coming to him or his family. The abdication of a King, the KING, is a HUGE deal.

Duchess Camilla is a homewrecker. I cannot accept her as the wife of Prince Charles. She was wrong to interfere with Princess Diana's and Prince Charles' marriage. Look at how much harm she created. Now she is heralded as a great person. NOT!!
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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She never struck me as very good looking. Was she a "real dish" by the standards of those times?

She was beautiful in his eyes. Your own wives might be beautiful to you but look like a dog to someone else.
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I'm not defending her, but I will say she gets blamed for consequences that were wholly the responsibility of her husband. Ultimately, the choice was his. He was going to be King...Could have had his cake and eaten it too, it just wouldn't have been served at Westminster Abbey. Nothing would have stopped him from granting her a title and land and keeping her as a Girlfriend.
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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We have our own little piece of Wallace Simpson history here at the hotel Del Coronado. There’s a portion of the hotel called the Windsor complex with private meeting rooms and lounges. The story goes that Simpson lived in the area and frequented the hotel with her first husband a US naval aviator.
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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She was beautiful in his eyes. Your own wives might be beautiful to you but look like a dog to someone else.
He had some dishy women before her though.. she put a spell on him hahaha. he was weak..says she treated him like dirt and he loved it...
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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He had some dishy women before her though.. she put a spell on him hahaha. he was weak..says she treated him like dirt and he loved it...
There was obviously something about her that attracted some men, even powerful good looking men. She wasn't going to win a beauty contest but I'm willing to bet she had a certain charm, a way of talking to men, a way she carried herself and a flirtatious personality which overcame whatever she lacked in the facial beauty dept. Some people really do fall in love with someone's personality. She certainly wasn't horrendous looking and did have what many men would consider a very nice body.
I'm willing to bet she treated Edward like he was a human being no different than anyone else. He was accustomed to even the best looking women falling all over him because he was a prince. To Edward, that was probably a big turn off as far as long term relationships. Wallis was probably a lot of fun, a little bit kooky, and the type of person he had never really encountered before and gotten to know personally.

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Old 03-05-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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She was beautiful in his eyes. Your own wives might be beautiful to you but look like a dog to someone else.
I don’t think it was her beauty that had him enthralled—-
Think Trilby and Svengali but reversed...

The series “The Crown” has a good take on the Royals’ reaction to D/D of Windsor—
And something I read—maybe about Churchill—illustrated that Queen Elizabeth when she was a young girl after her father took the crown, went to school daily in the palace to learn the rules governing the soverign’s powers and the parliment’s powers—because that was her job...
She was taught minutia of history and laws to ensure that SHE understood her role as future queen...

They didn’t have much of a life when they were children and then the war came and limited it even more...

They really hated David for escaping the kingship and thrusting it on their father—
He was never groomed for it, lacked lot of the training/education David got—and the self-confidence
But he was an honorable man and tried his best—-but stress (smoking) contributed to what as an early death
So they blamed D/D for killing the King...
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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I'm not defending her, but I will say she gets blamed for consequences that were wholly the responsibility of her husband. Ultimately, the choice was his. He was going to be King...Could have had his cake and eaten it too, it just wouldn't have been served at Westminster Abbey. Nothing would have stopped him from granting her a title and land and keeping her as a Girlfriend.
Actually that was what she wouldn’t agree to—
She thought she could force them to knuckle under because he was so charismatic and beloved of the people

Charles has done something similar in marrying CPB but she can never be crowned Queen
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:11 PM
 
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I don’t think it was her beauty that had him enthralled—-
Think Trilby and Svengali but reversed...

The series “The Crown” has a good take on the Royals’ reaction to D/D of Windsor—
And something I read—maybe about Churchill—illustrated that Queen Elizabeth when she was a young girl after her father took the crown, went to school daily in the palace to learn the rules governing the soverign’s powers and the parliment’s powers—because that was her job...
She was taught minutia of history and laws to ensure that SHE understood her role as future queen...

They didn’t have much of a life when they were children and then the war came and limited it even more...

They really hated David for escaping the kingship and thrusting it on their father—
He was never groomed for it, lacked lot of the training/education David got—and the self-confidence
But he was an honorable man and tried his best—-but stress (smoking) contributed to what as an early death
So they blamed D/D for killing the King...
I believe the "they" was really one person and that was Queen Elizabeth's mother who at the time was horrified that her husband was going to be King and of course it was because of Wallis. I don't buy for a moment that he wasn't also groomed to be King. Perhaps not to the extent his brother was, but you're not second in line to being King of England without being extensively groomed.
I don't believe growing up Elizabeth nor her sister held any great contempt for their Uncle or his wife. Any distance Elizabeth kept from her uncle was to make her mother happy. When he died, Elizabeth was cordial to Wallis and welcomed her as best she could under the circumstances. When Wallis died she was buried at Windsor next to her husband. I doubt such a thing could happen without the approval of the royal family especially Elizabeth.
Churchill was thrilled the German loving Hitler supporting King had abdicated. He thought Wallis Simpson was the best thing that could have happened to Great Britain at that time.

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