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Old 03-12-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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Hulsker, the German rocket scientists taught the British nothing they did not already know. The Germans used the work of Goddard, an American. British scientists were recruited by NASA. They were not too impressed with the German ex WW2 clique in Tennessee.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Well, duh. You like to change classifications. Good luck then.
It is best you understand what I wrote about the Condor.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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Ok. I will relegate the UK cruiser tanks to the tankette role, and the Churchill series to moving casemates.
You need to do some research on Churchill tanks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p-izpDBZv4&t=1s
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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US tank production numbers appear to be pretty far off (low).

I guess Russia fought on one front at a time, but the Eastern Front was a giant meat grinder.

Russia was also in the 1939 Soviet Japanese Border War, she provided substantial military aid to China 1937-39, invaded Poland in 1939, started the Winter War, and again fought the Japanese in Manchuria in 1945.

I am not sure what the last bullet point is supposed to mean. Greece, Crete, the Channel Islands and North Africa were not an extension of Germany's borders.
I was thinking the same about US tank production. Figures I found show a total of 80,187 tanks plus 11,537 tank destroyers, and 9,096 self propelled 105mm howitzers and 155mm guns. Broken down by class, there were:

Light tanks (M-3/M-5 and M-24) 27,441

Medium tanks (M-3, M-4) 50,544

Heavy tanks (M-26) 2,202

A few other interesting production numbers from 1942 through 1945.

Germany
Crude oil production, including synthetic and import 25.8 million tons
Steel production. 86.5 million tons
Aluminum production 1,322 thousand tons

Japan
Crude oil production 5.2 million tons (including 3.9mt imported)
Steel production 24.1 million tons
Aluminum production 361,000 tons

United States
Crude oil production 833.2 million tons
Steel production 334 million tons
Aluminum production 4,123 thousand tons

Merchant shipping tonnage built 1942-45

Japan 3,327,000 tons, including tankers

United States 32,056,140 tons including tankers

American oil production in 1942 alone was 153 million tons more than the German and Japanese 1942-45 totals combined.

These numbers show just how bad an idea it was for the axis powers to declare war on the United States, especially for Japan.
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Hulsker, the German rocket scientists taught the British nothing they did not already know. The Germans used the work of Goddard, an American. British scientists were recruited by NASA. They were not too impressed with the German ex WW2 clique in Tennessee.
Early German research did use the work of Robert Goddard, but they went much farther than Goddard did, as they had government support and money. Von Braun's designs in the US include the first American satellite launch in January 1958 on a Jupiter-C, part of the Redstone rocket family, and the
Mercury-Redstone, which carried a chimpanzee named "Ham" into space in January 1961, as well as Alan Shepard and Gus Grissom, the first two Americans in space.

His most important work (with fellow German Arthur Rudolph) culminated with the Saturn V, which to this day is still the tallest, heaviest, and most powerful rocket ever flown, as well as records for heaviest payload launched and biggest payload. Von Braun was also the first director of the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama serving for almost ten years. Fellow German scientist Kurt Debus was the first director of the Kennedy Space Center. Sounds fairly impressive to me.
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:08 AM
 
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Von Braun was also the first director of the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama serving for almost ten years. Fellow German scientist Kurt Debus was the first director of the Kennedy Space Center. Sounds fairly impressive to me.
The British were not impressed with them. The USA could hardly get a rocket off the ground using the Germans when the Soviets were putting satellites around the earth. A massive infusion of money and draining Britain of its scientists clearly helped. In Britain it was called the Brain Drain.
The British government was so concerned about the loss of scientists & engineers to the USA in the 1960s it seriously considered banning foreign recruitment advertising and also giving scientists and graduate engineers special privileges:
https://www.nature.com/articles/35003005

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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In the early days the Soviets were way ahead. They initially used some captured German scientists, however dropped them quite quickly using their own men, while the US still kept the Germans on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13qeX98tAS8
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:08 PM
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The Western allies also killed far more people than lost. In fact every nation did except France, Russia and China.
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Old Today, 12:24 PM
 
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The US produced 400,000 planes!?
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