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Old 03-14-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It was on Sep 11, 1683, that Islam reached its zenith.
On that day they attacked Vienna and were defeated. If they had succeeded, they would have 'turned every church in Europe into a mosque'. Such were the stated intentions of Kara Mustafa, the Ottoman leader.
300,000 Ottoman Muslim were repelled by maybe 100,000 Christians. Fact is, they were just out maneuvered by Polish king Jan Sobieski, who saved the day.
Vienna, 1683, is to Muslims what Gettysburg is to Southerners. That is as far as they got.


Does anyone else think this is the reason that Sep 11th was picked for the US bombings? Anyone seen anything written about it?
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The battle marked the first time the Commonwealth and the Holy Roman Empire had cooperated militarily against the Ottomans, and it is often seen as a turning point in history, after which "the Ottoman Turks ceased to be a menace to the Christian world".[18] In the ensuing war that lasted until 1699, the Ottomans lost almost all of Hungary to the Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I.[18]
The battle was lost on Sep 12, but begun on Sep 11.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The simplest answer would be that it was a coincidence.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:55 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The simplest answer would be that it was a coincidence.
That's simple, alright.
But this site thinks there is more....
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September the 11th is a significant date in world history. It was not just an arbitrary date chosen by the Muslim terrorists in 2001 who launched a jihad (Moslem holy war) against the United States, using four American airplanes and flying one plane into the Pentagon, another into a field in Pennsylvania, and two other airplanes into the Trade Towers in New York City. It also marks the date in 1683 when the Muslim armies of the Ottoman Empire began their attack on the Europe and Christianity with an assault on the city of Vienna, Austria. Unfortunately, the terrorists of 2001 focused on the wrong date. They, like the Moslem Turks in 1683, saw the Christian virtues of mercy and tolerance as weakness. They should have learned the historical lesson from what happened on the day after September 11th.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Saint Paul
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Moslems use a very different calendar, so would probably not see these two events as happening on the same date.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:30 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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Does anyone else think this is the reason that Sep 11th was picked for the US bombings? Anyone seen anything written about it?
September 11, 2001, was a Tuesday. That is the day of the week when daily flights have the most empty seats (which is also the reason that Tuesday is generally the cheapest day to fly). They chose the day because fewer passengers made the aircraft easier to control: less resistance.

How about October 10th? (732 - Muslim forces of the Umayyad Caliphate are defeated at Tours, which is now in northern France) Or July 15th? (1099 - The Crusaders captured Jerusalem, the second-holiest city in Islam, and massacred the inhabitants, Muslim and Jew alike) Or February 12th? (1502 - The Reconquista: by edict of Isabella, Muslims in Granada are forced to convert to Christianity)

Let's face it, probably most the dates on the calendar have some significant-to-Muslims importance in history.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:05 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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That is as far as they got.
One coincidental event, and a failed event at that, probably had no bearing on the date. They actually had better luck going east.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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its the day democracy died
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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its the day democracy died

Huh?
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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Huh?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdqEuLhlexY
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Honolulu
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its the day democracy died
So you're saying we don't live in a democracy anymore? Oh whatever, that's just a weird way of thinking. Do you also believe no one ever landed on the moon?
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