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Old Yesterday, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Some fascinating finds belonging to Romans. t remains unclear how ancient Romans could have made the epic journey across the Atlantic Ocean but, according to the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society (AAPS), the haul was discovered in a shipwreck off Oak Island on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada.

Mr Pulitzer said: "The ceremonial sword is 100 per cent confirmed as Roman.

"I began my forensic work into it using an XRF analyser - which is a leading archaeological tool for analysing metals.

"And we found all these other metals that tell you this was made from ore that came directly from the ground.

"It has the same arsenic and lead signature in it. We've been able to test this sword against another one like it and it matches." https://www.express.co.uk/news/histo...change-history

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Old Yesterday, 04:23 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Some fascinating finds belonging to Romans. https://www.express.co.uk/news/histo...change-history
The artifacts could have been transported to an island off Canada hundreds of years after their manufacture by any number of later sailors, possibly Vikings for example.

Even if a wayward Roman ship made it across the Atlantic, it obviously had no impact on history except maybe to show that they had the latent potential for transoceanic navigation. After all, they (probably Greek sailors) learned how to ride monsoon winds to navigate directly from Egyptian ports on the Red Sea to ports on the Indian Ocean.
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Old Yesterday, 04:27 AM
 
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The artifacts could have been transported to an island off Canada hundreds of years after their manufacture by any number of later sailors, possibly Vikings for example.

Even if a wayward Roman ship made it across the Atlantic, it obviously had no impact on history except maybe to show that they had the latent potential for transoceanic navigation. After all, they (probably Greek sailors) learned how to ride monsoon winds to navigate directly from Egyptian ports on the Red Sea to ports on the Indian Ocean.
this is true it also said that some of the artefacts looked Spanish but I dont know.... interesting though.
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Old Yesterday, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Please check a couple of sources (including legitimate ones) before posting nonsense.
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Old Yesterday, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Please check a couple of sources (including legitimate ones) before posting nonsense.
oh your a big help... what an attitude Mr Interesting..you could add to the chat instead of demeaning it..or do you think of yourself too clever for such mundane discussions.. watch you dont topple off it.......
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Old Yesterday, 04:43 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Cool...Of course, we just absolutely Know the Romans never made it here: they weren't known as very good seamen, their ships were heavy, unwieldly monstrosities, not very sea-worthy, and none of the well documented histories written by contemporary authors mention anything even remotely suggesting such things.


OTOH- what if a Roman exploratory party set out, or a Roman ship got blown off course and never made it back to Italy? Who'd ever miss them in the Mediterranean Basis where shipwrecks were so common? Just another ship never heard from again.


Then again, the sword pictured is obviously a ceremonial sword, not one intended for use in battle (the handle has a protruding, sharp decorative base- surely would have shredded the wrist of a guy slashing about with it)--highly unlikely it would have been carried on a working ship.


Article states dating puts time frame from 1500BC - 180 AD. WUWT? Rome founded 753BC.


I'm not saying it couldn't be, but much more likely artifacts were lost there by more modern "collectors" who probably had peg legs and eye patches. Aaaargh, Matey!
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Old Yesterday, 04:48 AM
 
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Could have well been... but I like to think they just might have made it...... Ancient Romans* in America
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Old Yesterday, 05:13 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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^^^ I didn't realize there was so much evidence of Roman artifact on this side of The Pond....The finds of coins & small stuff is too easily dismissed as things lost by later travelers. The ship wrecks are another thing. ???


One other line of deductive reasoning denies the possibility of early Roman intrusion here: given the well known modus operandi of we Italians, had we been here that early, Columbus would surely had found a well organized distribution network for boot-legged peyote, strings of gambling resorts and brothels already well established in The New World. After all, "Capone" is Italian for "Big Chief."
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Old Yesterday, 06:32 AM
 
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We'll never know one way or another for certain. It's possible one or more Roman ships made it here but there are theories the Chinese and Polynesians made it to the new world way before Columbus as well. If a Roman ship made it here and never made it back to Europe those people are long gone and left no record of it. Unless someone finds a Roman temple buried in New England, it's going to be dismissed by historians.
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Old Yesterday, 06:45 AM
 
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I doubt they lived over there but arefacts have been found it seems..... Romans brought roads to Britain.. it was one of the first things they did or so I read.. walls ,, forts and roads... and Im sure if they had lived in the Americas for any length of time these would have been found... still fasincating to think they might have found a way....
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