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Old 06-05-2019, 12:31 PM
 
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The pyramids are surrounded by beggars and thieves. They hit your chest with some souvenirs while saying “my friend my friend I give you this”. They’re checking your pockets. If they stole anything of value they let you walk away with the souvenir. If they didn’t steal anything they say, “no, I give you something so you must give me something”. Another thing that happens is the camel jockeys scam. They’ll tell you it’s free to take a picture on their camel. Sounds great. You climb on the camel’s back, he gives the command for the camel to stand, and your friend takes your photo. Now you have to pay him to let you down and it’s too far down to jump on the rocky ground.
Lots of scammers and touts near the pyramids (yeah the "ride the camel" gimmick) for sure but it's still impressive. A note here - Egypt is full of pyramids of various shapes and sizes. They have one that is sort of a failed pyramid in design. Giza has the largest and most impressive, but the entire country is full of ancient monuments, not only pyramids. I found Abu Simbel actually more impressive if you can deal with traveling to near the Sudan border in military convoy.
Someone mentioned pantheon in Rome, parthenon in Greece - yeah I been to both, pfft...imagine a country with 100's of Pantheons and Parthenons, only older, larger, and more impressive, spread all over the place - that is Egypt.

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I think it would be fascinating to see Stonehenge on the summer solstice in the year it was completed. I'd see it with every stone in place and also be able to see what kind of ceremonies took place there.
Stonehenge in it's day may have been impressive, but now it's underwhelming with a few busy highways nearby with automobiles buzzing past it left and right.

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That's on my list, too. I was impressed with the Pantheon in Rome but it had a lot of scaffolding inside so I'd like to see it again. The Forbidden City/Palace complex in Beijing. Chaco Canyon is just a couple hours away so I hope to see that soon.
Not ancient of course, more medieval/1400s. Architectually I didn't find it that fascinating, as there are many old temple complexes in the same design in China. The impressive part is it's significance in history, which a visitor should be aware of before visiting.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:11 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Lots of scammers and touts near the pyramids

Someone mentioned pantheon in Rome, parthenon in Greece - yeah I been to both, pfft...

Stonehenge in it's day may have been impressive, but now it's underwhelming

Architectually I didn't find it that fascinating, as there are many old temple complexes in the same design in China.
Yikes! Your not a tour guide, I hope.
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:51 AM
 
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....Which building from the past would you most want to see in the prime of it's working condition?
I would like to see how the ancient neolithic tomb sites were used, as it seems they had more purpose than only as burial places like our modern day cemeteries are.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:43 AM
 
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Yikes! Your not a tour guide, I hope.
Ha, no just a jaded traveler. But really it may not sound like it but I enjoy all these sites and I am the kind of guy that will travel hours out of my way to visit some obscure battlefield or monument.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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This type of question always makes me long for a time travel machine. Yes, as Aredhel mentioned, there are so many I would like to experience.



I would go for the Library at Alexandria, Gardens of Babylon and a sampling of ancient civilizations community or religious structures. Say, an ancient temple in Indus valley, the fabled cities buried in jungles, Rome in its glory years, etc...



For the person who mentioned Constantine's forum I found this searching
https://www.ancient.eu/video/654/for...ine-byzantium/


Looks like a cool site to find other representations of ancient structures / sites.
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:46 PM
 
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I’d expanded it a bit to include ancient cities like Pompei and Herculaneum. What were they like before they were scattered ruins overrun by modern tourists. Thriving places full of modest homes and mansions. The artwork, monuments and public places. The notion that anything or anyone is impermanent irregardless of importance or stature.
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:48 PM
 
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I’d expanded it a bit to include ancient cities like Pompei and Herculaneum. What were they like before they were scattered ruins overrun by modern tourists. Thriving places full of modest homes and mansions. The artwork, monuments and public places. The notion that anything or anyone is impermanent irregardless of importance or stature.
Pompeii is amazingly preserved - it was a party town! The murals on some of the walls that I took pictures of I would not be allowed to upload to citydata forums without earning a vacation to banned camp. Do a search in the internets and you will find some examples.
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Old 06-06-2019, 06:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Pompeii is amazingly preserved - it was a party town! The murals on some of the walls that I took pictures of I would not be allowed to upload to citydata forums without earning a vacation to banned camp. Do a search in the internets and you will find some examples.

I’ve seen them. Ancient pornography a lot of it in the homes of the wealthy done by skilled artists. Cruder depictions done on the walls of brothels more as examples of services offered to potential customers.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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Pompeii is amazingly preserved - it was a party town! The murals on some of the walls that I took pictures of I would not be allowed to upload to citydata forums without earning a vacation to banned camp. Do a search in the internets and you will find some examples.



I recall seeing these on History channel. There was a five part series in 1999 and then a 2009 special which were very well done in showing the economic, political, social strata of society and how they interacted.



A non visual excerpt:



“The conservative shift taking hold in Rome is just starting to affect Pompey when Vesuvius freezes the city. It is a pivotal moment, just after the most decadent period of Roman history has ended. Pompey’s hot house atmosphere of sexual goods and services was normal that time. Had the city survived another twenty years we might have found fewer examples of ancient erotica. But the business of prostitution would still have been in place. It was deeply ingrained not just in Pompey but all of Roman society and history shows it remained that way for centuries to come.


Pompey gives us an unequaled snapshot of a pivotal time in which sex for hire played many roles in the pragmatic roman world. It was a less than honorable but quite profitable venture for the wealthy, a major source of tax revenue for the state, a way for men to have extra sex without having illegal affairs, and a very public way of reinforcing the class system by sanctioning prostitution while publicly humiliating the men and women forced to practice it.


Pompey’s sex trade reflects all the contradictions of Roman Society, its rationalism, its brutality, its passion and it reveals the enormous impact leaders - good and bad – can have on mighty empires.”


You're right, thanks to the internet, now everyone can see them and say just like a young adult when they realize that everyone does it and has for centuries and millennia... there is nothing new under the sun!
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:54 AM
 
Location: London
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Hagia Sophia
Still there. Well worth a visit.
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