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Old 07-31-2019, 06:56 PM
 
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I was referring to sub-Saharan Africa, not Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria in northern Africa.

It wasn't until the 1880s that Europeans were able to penetrate sub-Saharan Africa, and Prussia was certain around then.
I can't tell if you are shifting goalposts or just don't know how to present a coherent argument that isn't full of anachronistic language and imprecision. In any case it seems you are not arguing in good faith so have a nice day or whatever.

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Old 08-05-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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How about another what if?

What if Native Americans never crossed over the Bearing land bridge and there were no humans in North America when Europeans arrived? They wouldn't have wiped out the megafauna and the Americas would have been a land of great beasts, full of mammoths, giant sloths, smilodons, dire wolves and more. Imagine the discovery that would have been.
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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America would look like it does with the indigenous tribes in Brazil. Nothing resembling any modern society or even middle age or even Ancient Greece.
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Old 08-09-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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Well. There has been speculation for instance that the Chinese admiral Zhang He during the Ming dynasty in about 1421 traveled as far as North America. And the possibility of Polynesian seafarerers arriving in the Americas in ancient times. Humankind are wanderers and explorers and this trait extends to non Europeans also.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Well. There has been speculation for instance that the Chinese admiral Zhang He during the Ming dynasty in about 1421 traveled as far as North America. And the possibility of Polynesian seafarerers arriving in the Americas in ancient times. Humankind are wanderers and explorers and this trait extends to non Europeans also.
there was also trade, communication and migrations going on across the Bering sea/strait in the resent past since the Yupik/Eskimos live on both sides. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Yupik

And there are theories that the Eskimos came from Asia in a separate migration at a more resent time.

"The Eskimo–Aleut languages are among the native languages of the Americas. This is a geographical category, not a genealogical one. The Eskimo–Aleut languages are not demonstrably related to the other language families of North America[7] and are believed to represent a separate, and the last, prehistoric migration of people from Asia.
Alexander Vovin (2015)[8] notes that Northern Tungusic languages, which are spoken in eastern Siberia and northeastern China, have Eskimo-Aleut loanwords that are not found in Southern Tungusic, implying that Eskimo-Aleut was once much more widely spoken in eastern Siberia. Vovin (2015) estimates that the Eskimo-Aleut loanwords in Northern Tungusic had been borrowed no more than 2,000 years ago, which was when Tungusic was spreading up north from its homeland in the middle reaches of the Amur River. Vovin (2015) considers the homeland (Urheimat) of Proto-Eskimo-Aleut to be in Siberia rather than in Alaska. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo–Aleut_languages
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Old Today, 06:48 AM
 
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What a dumb thread. Like no one would ever found half the earth?
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Old Today, 12:30 PM
 
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Yup. Speculation vs history.
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