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Old 07-21-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I saw another interesting thing on one of the many TV programs about the moon landing that have been on cable channels this week.

This project had no backup plan. Most NASA systems and 2nd and 3rd redundant systems. If the lunar lander was unable to get the astronauts back to the orbiter, they had no plan to rescue the astronauts from the surface of the moon. They had written press releases in the event of failure on the mission.

For some reason, that possibility never occurred to me before.
Success belongs to the risk takers. The astronauts were all military pilots who tested unproven aircraft and at least one who flew combat missions in Korea over hostile territory. You push ahead despite the odds. Itís called courage.
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:22 PM
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Location: USA
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It was sad when Apollo 1 burned, Apollo 13 had to turn back , Challenger exploded

Liberty Bell hatch blew off when Grissom landed in the Pacific


Thankfully other missions went well
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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We have to also keep in mind the Apollo program was the apogee of infrastructure spending. This across the nation in every manner. California population doubling-ish 1940-70 with infrastructure expanding likewise (highways, reservoirs etc.). Population doubling since 1970 without any infrastructure investments of note... resulting in traffic nightmare etc. After 1972 the Apollo program ends so does infrastructure spending.
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Old 07-22-2019, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I saw another interesting thing on one of the many TV programs about the moon landing that have been on cable channels this week.

This project had no backup plan. Most NASA systems and 2nd and 3rd redundant systems. If the lunar lander was unable to get the astronauts back to the orbiter, they had no plan to rescue the astronauts from the surface of the moon. They had written press releases in the event of failure on the mission.

For some reason, that possibility never occurred to me before.
They were all pretty much test flights. In other words, no protocol for rescue because it was assumed going in that there was always the potential for a fatal outcome. The astronauts were test pilots and knew that this was always a possibility.

Amazing that we didn't lose more during the program than the three in Apollo 1. We lost more in the two Space Shuttle accidents than in the moon shot program.
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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As far as I know there were no "suicide pills" either, should they get stranded.
It would have been "heroic" if they had suffered and died, not so it they had just been able to put themselves to sleep and avoid the suffering.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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It would have been "heroic" if they had suffered and died, not so it they had just been able to put themselves to sleep and avoid the suffering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEpHyC72gss
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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This isn't new. Armstrong explained that long ago.

LOL And who could blame him for flubbing his planned words? He was in the midst of being the first human to step on the moon, for crying out loud.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:46 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I saw another interesting thing on one of the many TV programs about the moon landing that have been on cable channels this week.

This project had no backup plan. Most NASA systems and 2nd and 3rd redundant systems. If the lunar lander was unable to get the astronauts back to the orbiter, they had no plan to rescue the astronauts from the surface of the moon. They had written press releases in the event of failure on the mission.

For some reason, that possibility never occurred to me before.
I take it you're too young to have lived it live. Though no one wanted to dwell on it, that moon "stranding" possibility was mentioned time and time again during the ongoing coverage.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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We all watched it live at the time. I was just a kid, I remember wondering where their ray guns were (or similiar high tech weapons). Surely they must have some way to defend themselves just in case? Thank Star Trek and various sci-fi movies for that thought process.

In terms of dangers, all these guys were aware of the risks, accepted them, and would have it no other way in terms of being a part of the program. These guys were cut from a different cloth - most were former combat pilots and test pilots and volunteered for everything and anything that would involve danger, fame, and/or excitement. It's just the way they were.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I was a Marine Embassy Guard in Singapore. I was on a night shift and was the only person in the embassy at the time. Usually nothing went on. Suddenly our switchboard lit up with dozens of locals calling in and congratulating the US on the Moon landing.
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