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Historians on GWB: George Bush quotes, terrorism, administration, white house, presidency,

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Old 04-15-2008, 09:00 PM
 
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109 published historians respond to a poll on feedback about President Bush. Predictably they weren't too positive in remarks about Bush and overwhelmingly consider his administration as the very worse ever in our nation.


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The Bush Presidency: The Historians (Start to) Weigh In - The Board - Editorials - Opinion - New York Times Blog
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:03 PM
 
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I'm not a Bush defender, but it ain't history yet.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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Hopefully the historians will document the lunacy of BDS.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:08 PM
 
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I am not a Bush fan but I question the verasity of historians. I mean who are they? What have they done of merit except ponder other peoples accomplishments. Worse still how many of those historians are university professors who have done nothing in their lives other than campus life?
Sort of like so many business professors who have never ran a business but yet they teach business. Sorry I would rather learn from folks who do it, not the guys who talk about folks who do it.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:09 AM
 
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New York TImes, riiiighhht. Bush is not part of history and cannot yet be fairly judged by history, this has been discussed in the "worst presidents" post below. Historians judging Bush is like Historians judging automobiles, they have the same qualifications.

This has nothing to do with history. This is a "Bush Hate" peace and does not belong in this forum. Why don't we move this to the political forum with the rest of them?
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:36 AM
 
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If it gets too political I will do just that
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:58 AM
 
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The Times is reporting on a survey sent out by the History News Network. The History News Network also published "The Follies of Instant History: Another Meaningless Poll of Historians (http://hnn.us/articles/48941.html - broken link)." That's fair and balanced I would say.

I agree with the poster above who said it's still too early to really take stock.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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From your link above:

"The current poll’s respondents (like those of the earlier poll) are acting as soothsayers because the history profession has not yet had the opportunity to engage the practices of valid historical scholarship. Valid historical scholarship requires us to do lots of things which require time, and especially, the passage of time. To make an historical assessment we need to engage the standard practices of scholarly research. It is these methodological disciplines which render historical judgments valid; it is not the “votes” of contemporary historical opinion. Even if every professional historian in the world placed Bush on exactly the same rung of the historical ladder, it would still be an empty exercise, because the processes of historical scholarship have not yet had an opportunity to be engaged here."

Accurately sums it up. Funny that New York Times forgot that comment from that article. The poll is meaningless except as a political fluff piece. What a waste of bandwidth...
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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Yes, that was fair of the History News Network to post the second piece. The comments at the bottom of the first article are fierce!

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Old 04-16-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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109 published historians respond to a poll on feedback about President Bush. Predictably they weren't too positive in remarks about Bush and overwhelmingly consider his administration as the very worse ever in our nation.


Here's the article:
The Bush Presidency: The Historians (Start to) Weigh In - The Board - Editorials - Opinion - New York Times Blog
The last seven and a half years are all the history I need to know. 9 Trillion dollars of debt after running surpluses and paying down debt prior. Social security and medicare flushed down the toilet in a failed Iraq. Charged up debt on the House of Saud and China credit cards for our children and grandkids to pay off. Record foreclosures, gas approaching 4/gal, stock market going down the toilet, inflation, floundering 401ks, manufacturing sent out of the country, 28 million on food stamps, and 4000 dead soldiers. You can attack the "liberal" source, but I'd bet my last buck that history won't look kindly on W.
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