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Old 09-02-2019, 09:50 AM
 
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So the Huns are now officially the Xiong Nu

But they dont explain when, and why the crossed the Urals and into Europe


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Old 09-02-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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Huns are the Germans
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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They also don't know for sure what ethnicity they were ; Indo-euro, or Asiatic. Opinions are changing; some are saying they were Indo-Euros. The plot thickens.
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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So the Huns are now officially the Xiong Nu

But they dont explain when, and why the crossed the Urals and into Europe
Because they could. Because it was there, so why not?
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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The Huns were a pre-literate society, so they left no written records of their own. Most of the other tribes they encountered were also pre-literate; Goths, etc.

But they had extensive contact with the Romans, who minted Atilla's likeness on some of their coins.

Notice the horns they included.

He appears to be more of a proto-Turk than anything else.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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The Huns were a pre-literate society, so they left no written records of their own. Most of the other tribes they encountered were also pre-literate; Goths, etc.

But they had extensive contact with the Romans, who minted Atilla's likeness on some of their coins.

Notice the horns they included.

He appears to be more of a proto-Turk than anything else.
Hungarian historians have always maintained the Huns were originally Turkic-speaking. And they certainly inhabited the part of Asia that was the cradle of the Truko-Mongol peoples. But that doesn't necessarily prove anything; early Indo-European nomads made it as Far East as Mongolia and Manchuria not too long after the Ice Age was over. I can't say exactly why some historians or archaeologists are now surmising the Huns were Indo-Euros; I haven't looked into it in detail, but I've come across several references to that theory in my researching early Indo-Euro history in Asia. It could also be, that their armies incorporated both ethnicities.

Very interesting coin, btw. Also notice the Spock-like ears. Thx for posting!

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Old 09-03-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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They were chinese, that's why many germans have slanted yes - brandauer. Suerkraut is also chinese. There's a roman description of attila and when he wantes to marry gala placidia, his favouriste food was tartar steak and fried rice,
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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Hungarian historians have always maintained the Huns were originally Turkic.
Doesn't Hungary mean, "land of the Huns"?

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And they certainly inhabited the part of Asia that was the cradle of the Truko-Mongol peoples. But that doesn't necessarily prove anything; early Indo-European nomads made it as Far East as Mongolia and Manchuria not too long after the Ice Age was over. I can't say exactly why some historians or archaeologists are now surmising the Huns were Indo-Euros; I haven't looked into it in detail, but I've come across several references to that theory in my researching early Indo-Euro history in Asia. It could also be, that their armies incorporated both ethnicities.

Very interesting coin, btw. Also notice the Spock-like ears. Thx for posting!
The Huns also practiced what's called "cranial deformation", binding children's heads to give them a higher, elongated shape. That's clearly depicted in the coin, also.

Another similar coin.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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Doesn't Hungary mean, "land of the Huns"?

The Huns also practiced what's called "cranial deformation", binding children's heads to give them a higher, elongated shape. That's clearly depicted in the coin, also.

Another similar coin.
Notice also (more easily seen on first coin) the round skull shape, vs. the long heads Indo-Euros typically have. But I don't know to what extent we can trust for accuracy depictions that include horns and Spock ears.
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Doesn't Hungary mean, "land of the Huns"?

The Huns also practiced what's called "cranial deformation", binding children's heads to give them a higher, elongated shape. That's clearly depicted in the coin, also.

Another similar coin.
Update: Atilla was born in the Caucasus in the 5th Century AD, which is far too late to tell us anything about the Huns' original ethnicity. An anthropologist friend points out the obvious, too: his heavy beard would indicate he's Caucasian, anyway, not Asiatic. By the time the Romans encountered the Huns, the latter were heavily admixed w/Caucasian types. Atilla lead an army that included Ostrogoths and Alans.
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