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Old 07-18-2021, 09:03 PM
 
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August 8th and 9th They are coming. Manson is dead, but the truth about what relly happened is not accepted. Bugliosi was an illuminati patsy. He covered it up. There are links to Manson and Atkins parole officers, jODIE wEST AND mk ULTRA, pOLANSKI and the occult, drugs, ect. It was ugly. The Beatles Narrative bull**** and Bugliosi went to his grave knowing it. The whole thing was ugly.
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Old 07-19-2021, 05:46 AM
 
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August 8th and 9th They are coming. Manson is dead, but the truth about what relly happened is not accepted. Bugliosi was an illuminati patsy. He covered it up. There are links to Manson and Atkins parole officers, jODIE wEST AND mk ULTRA, pOLANSKI and the occult, drugs, ect. It was ugly. The Beatles Narrative bull**** and Bugliosi went to his grave knowing it. The whole thing was ugly.
OK the JFK conspiracy thread is getting boring and discussed too many times. We need a new conspiracy.

Your post is only barely comprehensible, but what's this new conspiracy theory on Manson? What's coming in August? Add more detail please, but first take a deep breath and compose your thoughts, then type.
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:00 AM
 
Location: North America
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August 8th and 9th They are coming. Manson is dead, but the truth about what relly happened is not accepted. Bugliosi was an illuminati patsy. He covered it up. There are links to Manson and Atkins parole officers, jODIE wEST AND mk ULTRA, pOLANSKI and the occult, drugs, ect. It was ugly. The Beatles Narrative bull**** and Bugliosi went to his grave knowing it. The whole thing was ugly.
You forgot the Bilderbergs and the Trilateral Commission.

Also, was Woody Harrelson's dad involved in this one, too? Asking for a friend...
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Old 07-19-2021, 01:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Oh yippie a new conspiracy theory topic.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:53 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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August 8th and 9th They are coming.
Yes, they are.

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Manson is dead,
Yes, he is.

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but the truth about what relly happened is not accepted.
The truth is fairly well known.

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Bugliosi was an illuminati patsy.
The Illuminati existed for ~10 years beginning in 1776 in Bavaria.

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He covered it up.
No, he didn't. He published what he learned after he successfully prosecuted the case.

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There are links to Manson and Atkins parole officers,
They were never on parole.

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jODIE wEST
Who?

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AND mk ULTRA,
That was CIA stuff that had nothing to do with Manson.

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pOLANSKI
He was out of the country making a movie.

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and the occult, drugs, ect.
Well, drugs were involved in the Manson family.

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It was ugly.
Worst crime scene I've ever heard about.

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The Beatles Narrative bull**** and Bugliosi went to his grave knowing it. The whole thing was ugly.
It is known that Manson played the White Album over and over and thought there was a hidden message.

Now, let's talk about History. Things that happened in the past. Not a bunch of conspiracy theories that haven't an ounce of truth to them.
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Old 07-22-2021, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Southern MN
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Just a few corrections, mensaguy.

Both Charlie and Susan had parole officers even though they never were granted parole.

The link to the CIA MK Ultra programs was through Louis Jolyon West who presided over the government's brainwashing programs during the Korean War, taught psychiatry in OK and ran studies on hippies in the Free Clinic which Manson and his "girls" frequented.

He is also the man who did the psychiatric evaluation of Jack Ruby for the government. (It gets strange. They keep their own close.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Jolyon_West

In prison Charlie had participated in psychiatric testing and study.

I remember when you wouldn't have found an American citizen anywhere who would have believed the government was experimenting in mind control. Conspiracy theorists! Now you are simply poorly informed if you don't recognize that fact.

The main concern for researchers was investigating the real motivation for the Manson murderers. He was a man more deeply embedded in Hollywood culture than what some people know. Remember he was a pimp and was known to provide underaged girls to the rich and famous. That makes his connection with Polanski even more questionable.

I was an adult when all this happened and have watched the case go from a simple problem of, "Those danged crazy hippies. That culture is worthless," which was useful to the government, to a story with many implications of government interference in the lives of citizens.

Even "Rolling Stone" got in on the act eventually. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...oneill-856651/

I guess it's what much of the antiwar culture of the Sixties was saying to begin with - that the government was up to some shady work.

I've been interested in the long strange trip myself and appreciate the more credible articles I've read through the years that add pieces to the puzzle that may never be solved.

History is full of conspiracies and ambiguities. But dismissing all of them for the confusion they cause doesn't change our trajectory.

It's just me, though. Trying to understand people and their motives. I know you can't come to good conclusions without taking it all in - the good and the garbage alike and sorting.
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:52 PM
 
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Yeap almost there. 52 years crazy
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Old 08-03-2021, 05:16 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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This happens every year about this time.
And just a few days after the Manson murders, Captain D's and Long John Silver both open their first stores...what's up with that? Spooky.
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Old 08-03-2021, 06:37 PM
 
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Yeap almost there. 52 years crazy
What’s really crazy is how close it was to the first Apollo Moon landing and Woodstock. Obviously, none of these events are related to one another, but it’s interesting how three watershed moments took place at that time.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:37 PM
 
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The hippie movement was started by the CIA. The first hippie was Vito Pauluskus who is a descendant of the Rockefeller family. He was the precursor to Manson. He had a wife like 30 years younger than him. Their child died in an accident during a filming of a movie. The night after his death they went out to eat. Very strange behavior. Pauluskus let the Byrds use his studio to practice. David Crosby of the Byrds could not play when he started. Session musicians played his parts on record until he could get it right. Crosby has long been speculated to be some Gov psy op agent. He is from the Prestigious Cortland family. All of a sudden music clubs were all over LA. It seems like design. Then came Neil Young, Stephen Stills, Frank Zappa, Jim Morrisonj, and many others, most of whom came from military families. Coincidence. They all moved to Laurel Canyon. Again Coincidence? Manson came in and took the place of Pauluskus who faded from the scene. He hung out quite a bit with Mama Cass who had major criminal connections. All of this can researched in Strange Scenes from the Canyon by Dave Mcgowan and also Charles Manson and the CIA by Tom O'neil. That's just scratching the surface.
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