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Old 10-28-2021, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It seems to me that this thread has degenerated into an apologia for the September 11 attackers. In my view there is no question that was a massacre. The biggest in history? I doubt it.
That's just your opinion. I'm with those who think that bombings don't quite fit the box. This had nothing to do with the moral quality of the event, just the number of acts and the amount of violence involved.
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Old 10-28-2021, 11:45 AM
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Location: New York Area
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That's just your opinion. I'm with those who think that bombings don't quite fit the box. This had nothing to do with the moral quality of the event, just the number of acts and the amount of violence involved.
I agree that Hiroshima and Nagasaki do not fit the bill of a massacre.
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I agree that Hiroshima and Nagasaki do not fit the bill of a massacre.
9/11 is more like a bombing than some the other events listed in this thread so shouldn't fit either.
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Old 10-28-2021, 09:05 PM
 
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How do you know? There has never been a country that was allowed to try communism, without being economically blockade and threatened with military annihilation from "freedom-loving" countries without.
Get real
Read what life was like under Mao and any subsequent power
They didn’t need any other country to ruin their economy
Too busy doing it all on their own…
Just like the USSR
And North Korea…not that that is really under Communism
Tito couldn’t do it.
Castro couldn’t do it…
Plenty of South American autocracies screwed themselves to the hilt, too…
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Old 10-29-2021, 12:43 AM
 
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Get real
Read what life was like under Mao and any subsequent power
They didn’t need any other country to ruin their economy
Too busy doing it all on their own…
Just like the USSR
And North Korea…not that that is really under Communism
Tito couldn’t do it.
Castro couldn’t do it…
Plenty of South American autocracies screwed themselves to the hilt, too…
Yes, the Americans just stood there quietly and watched as those countries failed, even offered economic aid if they struggled.
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Old 10-29-2021, 08:40 AM
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Location: New York Area
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How do you know? There has never been a country that was allowed to try communism, without being economically blockade and threatened with military annihilation from "freedom-loving" countries without.
Get real
Read what life was like under Mao and any subsequent power
They didn’t need any other country to ruin their economy
Too busy doing it all on their own…
Just like the USSR
And North Korea…not that that is really under Communism
Tito couldn’t do it.
Castro couldn’t do it…
Plenty of South American autocracies screwed themselves to the hilt, too…
Yes, the Americans just stood there quietly and watched as those countries failed, even offered economic aid if they struggled.
Certain of the posters in this sequence actually read what's going on. If these countries, starting with the USSR in 1917 didn't make it clear from the inception of their experiments that they were going to be stirring the pot with neighbors and worldwide that would not have happened. These countries lacked hard currency to trade even if they weren't "economically blockade (sic)." Certainly Red China and the USSR didn't have much hard currency, and what hard currency they do have is used for the ruling class's sumptuous life style. In North Korea, for example, the dynasty lives famously high on the hog, as do the rulers of Venezuela and Cuba.
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Old 10-29-2021, 01:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Massacre or terrorist attack. Lots of innocent people get killed. Only difference is the preferred weapon.
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Old 11-03-2021, 10:19 PM
 
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I wonder why people don't acknowledge this much? I find it interesting. I would have assumed it would be Hitler or Stalin, but neither killed as many as Mao Zedong with his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people There are people alive today that lived this. I never hear of it. Why is that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...derer-his-due/
Well, according to your Bible, God massacred the whole damn world and only Noah and his group were left alive, along with animals. Sounds like something God would do.
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Old 11-04-2021, 06:11 PM
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Location: New York Area
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Well, according to your Bible, God massacred the whole damn world and only Noah and his group were left alive, along with animals. Sounds like something God would do.
That commandment applies only to murder, and only among people. It does not say "thou shalt not kill."
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Old 11-07-2021, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Get real
Read what life was like under Mao and any subsequent power
They didn’t need any other country to ruin their economy
Too busy doing it all on their own…
Just like the USSR
And North Korea…not that that is really under Communism
Tito couldn’t do it.
Castro couldn’t do it…
Plenty of South American autocracies screwed themselves to the hilt, too…

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-54277430


Oh, Mao's habits didn't completely die off. Check out what's happening now.



Authoritarian governments don't like dissent...whatever flavor it happens to be.
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