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By no means. The death rate for slaves in Brazil was so awful that a lot of them didn't survive to have descendants grow up to endure prejudice and ongoing servitude. Being enslaved is bad, but not quite as final as dying young in slavery.
Some of the slaves and some native americans will beg the differ b/c many of them had rather died than continued being slaves
Some of the slaves and some native americans will beg the differ b/c many of them had rather died than continued being slaves
But the point is not that. The point you made:
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With all that being said, you all have to agreed american slavery was the most brutal and has had the longest affect on a group of people in the history of mankind.
...and the fact is, it's more brutal to work people to death, throw the bodies in the jungle and bring over replacements (who will also mostly die) than it is to at least give many of them halfway reasonable conditions (by the admittedly low standards of slavery as a fundamental concept) such that they are generally able to marry, raise families, go to church and often live to entertain grandbabies. Either your statement was wrong, or you have a very unique and interesting definition of 'more brutal.'
Furthermore, slavery still goes on in Africa. Has gone on for centuries, perhaps millennia, just as it was the norm in ancient Western civilizations. Since it's likely gone on longer there continuously than anywhere, regardless of American involvement, that aspect of your statement is likewise in error.
Most slave holders owned only one or two slaves. They were expensive. A healthy young male might cost $1000, and you could buy a 500 acre farm for that. There were relatively very few slave owning households which had more than 100, and only a handful in the entire south that had more than 200.
For county tax purposes, slaves had an assessed value, just like the land they worked. The combined assessed value of the slaves in 1860 was greater than the value of the land they worked.
Generally, the further south you went, the higher the percentage of households which held slaves.
In the 1860 census, in the slave states of Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia, there were a total of 1,515,605 households, and of these 393,967 held slaves, or 26%. In South Carolina and Mississippi, the percentage of households having slaves was about 50%.
The population of the seceding states was about nine million, including about three and one half million slaves, and another half million free blacks (some of whom were slave owners themselves).
Slavery in the north was much less pervasive, though it continued in surprising places. There were still 18 slaves in New Jersey in 1860.
...and the fact is, it's more brutal to work people to death, throw the bodies in the jungle and bring over replacements (who will also mostly die) than it is to at least give many of them halfway reasonable conditions (by the admittedly low standards of slavery as a fundamental concept) such that they are generally able to marry, raise families, go to church and often live to entertain grandbabies. Either your statement was wrong, or you have a very unique and interesting definition of 'more brutal.'
Furthermore, slavery still goes on in Africa. Has gone on for centuries, perhaps millennia, just as it was the norm in ancient Western civilizations. Since it's likely gone on longer there continuously than anywhere, regardless of American involvement, that aspect of your statement is likewise in error.
Slavery in the U.S was the most brutal in the world b/c unlike in ancient times and even in tribal Africa in a course of a couple of generations slaves blended into the general population. In american slavery blacks were targeted b/c they COULD NOT blend into the general population and the even when it ended, a race of people were w/o a culture or knew anything about their history and kept in the dark by their oppressors with stupid laws feuled by racism to this day. According to general knowledge this country was torn apart b/c it. Laws were even created feuled by racism (JIM CROW) Please give me examples of any other country that can boost that acheivement.
How can you bend your fingers to even insinuate that slavery was better than death for some of those poor souls? The native americans constantly killed themselves when faced with "reasonable conditions" as for the africans, there were millions that threw themselves overboard rather than face the brutality that faced them once they arrived in the new world. Now I will concede to the fact that the suicide rate might have lowered once they got here only b/c they had no where else to go.
Oh, one more thing check your real black history books and you will find that many mothers killed their own children just so that they would not have to grow up into slavery.
Now tell me if slavery was not as brutal as I mentioned would a perfectly sane women kill their newborns under "reasonable conditions"?
Slavery in the U.S was the most brutal in the world b/c unlike in ancient times and even in tribal Africa in a course of a couple of generations slaves blended into the general population. In american slavery blacks were targeted b/c they COULD NOT blend into the general population and the even when it ended, a race of people were w/o a culture or knew anything about their history and kept in the dark by their oppressors with stupid laws feuled by racism to this day. According to general knowledge this country was torn apart b/c it. Laws were even created feuled by racism (JIM CROW) Please give me examples of any other country that can boost that acheivement.
How can you bend your fingers to even insinuate that slavery was better than death for some of those poor souls? The native americans constantly killed themselves when faced with "reasonable conditions" as for the africans, there were millions that threw themselves overboard rather than face the brutality that faced them once they arrived in the new world. Now I will concede to the fact that the suicide rate might have lowered once they got here only b/c they had no where else to go.
Oh, one more thing check your real black history books and you will find that many mothers killed their own children just so that they would not have to grow up into slavery.
Now tell me if slavery was not as brutal as I mentioned would a perfectly sane women kill their newborns under "reasonable conditions"?
You think near-certain death is less brutal than probably surviving. There's no way our concepts can be reconciled, especially if you keep trying to make it sound like I think any of it was a decent practice. Your position here just isn't rational.
We all have been slaves, and discriminated.
A farm labourer in Spain in 1850 was worth far less (and his life expectancy was far below) than any black slave in Cuba.
Life expectancy was 30 years in Spain in 1900.
With the price paid for a slave in Cuba (I live in a town of former slave merchants) you could buy a large house and a orchard in this town in 1870.
Brutal? Life in Europe was brutal.
We were not kept, we were treated like scum and for us, a Black was a signal of luxury until not long ago.
Do you think that Europeans love America? They were forced there because they were living in hell.
We all have been slaves, and discriminated.
A farm labourer in Spain in 1850 was worth far less (and his life expectancy was far below) than any black slave in Cuba.
Life expectancy was 30 years in Spain in 1900.
With the price paid for a slave in Cuba (I live in a town of former slave merchants) you could buy a large house and a orchard in this town in 1870.
Brutal? Life in Europe was brutal.
We were not kept, we were treated like scum and for us, a Black was a signal of luxury until not long ago.
Do you think that Europeans love America? They were forced there because they were living in hell.
Europeans were given the chance to make it in America more so than blacks. Blacks had it bad in America. Why won't you admit that?
Blacks had it terrible in this country. It was disgraceful and as recent as the 1960's
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