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Old 06-23-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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I just got done reading an interesting article on New Scientist magazine about eight ancient scripts that scientist's still cannot decipher. They are ....

1. Estruscan Script (Italy)
2. Meroitic Hieroglyphs (Egypt)
3. Olmec, Zapotec, Isthmian (Central America)
4. Minoan (Crete)
5. Rongo-rongo (Easter Island)
6. Indus Script (Pakistan/India)
7. Proto-Elamite (Mesopotamia/Iran)
8. Phaistos Disc (Crete)

Anyway if interested you can read the article at the posted link.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ad.html?page=1

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Old 06-23-2009, 08:45 AM
 
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Iberian script
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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Iberian script
Well tell us about what you know as that wasn't in the article.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:11 AM
 
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It was the language of ancient Iberians inhabiting the Iberian peninsula. Their alphabet mimicked the Phoenician alphabet. Phoenicians started visiting Spain 4.000 years ago.

There are many writing, mostly religious, the language remains "uncracked".

Iberian was a Indoeuropean language, possibly related to Latin, etc.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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If it's been in spain for 4000 years then it couldn't be Itallic as Latin first emerged around 900 B.C. in Italy. Are you possibly referring to the Basque language as i thought that they are possibly the oldest continuous inhabitants of Western Europe?
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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No, the Iberian culture was Indoeuropean, related with Italic languages.
Some archeologists in the past have asserted that Basque is ancient Iberian, but the idea was discarded.
It seems that Basque are primitive, non-Indoeuropean people that were not assimilated by Indoeuropeans (Iberian and Kelt cultures in Spain).
In Northen Spain, there are pockets of Non Indoeuropean original Europeans, the painters of Altamira.
I think that Iberians must have been very similar to Italics.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:54 AM
 
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I just got done reading an interesting article on New Scientist magazine about eight ancient scripts that scientist's still cannot decipher. They are ....

1. Estruscan Script (Italy)
2. Meroitic Hieroglyphs (Egypt)
3. Olmec, Zapotec, Isthmian (Central America)
4. Minoan (Crete)
5. Rongo-rongo (Easter Island)
6. Indus Script (Pakistan/India)
7. Proto-Elamite (Mesopotamia/Iran)
8. Phaistos Disc (Crete)

Anyway if interested you can read the article at the posted link.
Decoding antiquity: Eight scripts that still can't be read - life - 27 May 2009 - New Scientist
Am I missing something? Is not the Phaistos Disc in Linear A, which was Minoan? In other words, aren't #4 and #8 the same?
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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No, the Iberian culture was Indoeuropean, related with Italic languages.
Some archeologists in the past have asserted that Basque is ancient Iberian, but the idea was discarded.
It seems that Basque are primitive, non-Indoeuropean people that were not assimilated by Indoeuropeans (Iberian and Kelt cultures in Spain).
In Northen Spain, there are pockets of Non Indoeuropean original Europeans, the painters of Altamira.
I think that Iberians must have been very similar to Italics.
Who are the original Europeans ?? since humans have been in Europe since 900,000 years ago.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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Am I missing something? Is not the Phaistos Disc in Linear A, which was Minoan? In other words, aren't #4 and #8 the same?
Well from what i understand is that #8 is possibly not Minoan as it has symbols that don't match any other Cretan language.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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Well from what i understand is that #8 is possibly not Minoan as it has symbols that don't match any other Cretan language.
I'm not sure how many examples we have of Linear A, so I can't verify that. But either my tour guide in Crete was wrong, or the Phaistos Disc is in Linear A. And the guides there are by and large pretty knowledgeable--enough so that despite my own education, I kept my mouth well shut and listened respectfully to them.
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