|

07-09-2009, 05:01 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Islip Township
188 posts, read 54,408 times
Reputation: 85
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishtom29
The Spartans weren't warriors, they were proper soldiers, which was one reason they were so formidable. But their combat record included many losses and never forget the real reason for Spartan militarism was to hold down the Helots at home; the Spartan army was kind of a mixture of the Gestapo, Einsatzgruppen and the Waffen SS.
In the end to hold up their rotten and corrupt system they were reduced to taking money from Persia to fight other Greeks and still they fell to the Thebans and revolt at home.
|
With respect
I challange your comment "But their combat record included many losses " Sparta from what I have read and was told, never lost or retreated. But There was one or two draws. Not sure of which battle, but There resolve was so steadfast that there enemy let the Spartans remove there wounded and carry off there dead. Of which was never heard of at the time.
Thanks all great posts
|
|

07-09-2009, 05:18 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chicago
4,120 posts, read 2,006,491 times
Reputation: 1562
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevar242
With respect
I challange your comment "But their combat record included many losses " Sparta from what I have read and was told, never lost or retreated. But There was one or two draws. Not sure of which battle, but There resolve was so steadfast that there enemy let the Spartans remove there wounded and carry off there dead. Of which was never heard of at the time.
Thanks all great posts
|
Sorry, the Spartans were defeated many times. Among their more famous defeats are Thermopylae, Sphacteria, Leuctra and 2nd Mantinea.
|
|

07-09-2009, 05:24 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Floating in the Great Salt Lake
1,279 posts, read 288,470 times
Reputation: 548
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
Nah, I've only been here 7 years.
|
You're late... My great , great grandpappy got here in the 1870's from Norway, and Grandma from Denmark in the 1950's. But somewhere in between an Italian, some Englishmen and a Spaniard got mixed in, so my mead consumption capacity is slightly less than it should be and my beard is too short.
Hopefully they'll still let me into Valhalla, though. 
|
|

07-10-2009, 12:08 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2006
463 posts, read 132,674 times
Reputation: 253
|
|
First pros?
In terms of professionalism it would be difficult to surpass the Assyrian army of the 9th to 7th century BC.Highly structured,this army had admistration,logistics,engineering,and armoring staffs that in some ways not even the Romans could equal centuries later.They may have been the first to maintain a full time year around permanent professional army.Their weapons and armor were first rate,as were their tactics.Like so many other empires,it collapsed due to political reasons,not military ones.
|
|

07-10-2009, 08:36 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chicago
4,120 posts, read 2,006,491 times
Reputation: 1562
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackShoe
In terms of professionalism it would be difficult to surpass the Assyrian army of the 9th to 7th century BC.Highly structured,this army had admistration,logistics,engineering,and armoring staffs that in some ways not even the Romans could equal centuries later.They may have been the first to maintain a full time year around permanent professional army.Their weapons and armor were first rate,as were their tactics.Like so many other empires,it collapsed due to political reasons,not military ones.
|
Yes, yes indeed.
|
|

08-29-2009, 09:52 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2009
90 posts, read 24,993 times
Reputation: 49
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishtom29
So what happened, Danes sure ain't tough guys now.
I know the Swedes were formidable soldiers at least well into the 1700s but what about the western Scandanavians?
|
LOL... same with the French!
|
|

08-29-2009, 07:16 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Islip Township
188 posts, read 54,408 times
Reputation: 85
|
|
|
Again Thanks for the post. Great reading
At Thermopylae While they Died to the Last [ only because of a traitor] the War was won Because
SPARTAN WARRIORS held there ground.
|
|

09-02-2009, 10:46 AM
|
|
80's Rebel
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
9,779 posts, read 7,211,845 times
Reputation: 5759
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trotter67
I'm going to stick my neck out and say...The Huns.
The Hunnic Cavalry was formidable and second to none.
|
I agree as they were awesome and terrifying to all those in eastern and middle Europe around 370 A.D. Probably only the Mongols were as proficient in fighting with their horse cavalry.
They even drove the other conquering barbarians fleeing west i.e. the Goths, Saxons and the Vandals.
|
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
|
|