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Old 02-24-2011, 03:59 AM
 
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Of course not. The original celts were Indoeuropean invaders.
No specific ethnias have been identified among those invaders.
No one knows which specific Indoeuropeans gave rise to the Celtic, Germanic or Latin culture.
There's no "celtic blood", it's a language.
The "9 points of Celtic identification" is just pure poppycock.
About 90 percent of the "popular" information about celts has been fabricated since the 5th Century BC.
You are talking about "La Tene" culture and "Hallstat", quite recent in time.
It seems that the earliest manifestation of the proto-celtic culture is the Bell Beaker culture.

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Old 02-24-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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The map is very interesting.

I have read a few different books on the Celts, but the main belief it seems is that the original celts in the very beginning did form in the germany, austria, switzerland area, but there impact hit many areas all over.
What's interesting about them is that they (Senone Celts) were one of the very few European peoples who headed eastward out of Europe instead of migrating west like all the other invading/migrating peoples over the centuries before and after them as it took them around 100 years from the 'Sack of Rome' (Brennus 390 B.C.) to around 280 when they finally migrated to the region called Galatia in north central Anatolia. They were the Galatians who were mentioned in the New Testament for those who are into the bible.

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Old 06-19-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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Default BBC special, Blood Of The Vikings.

The BBC sponsored a DNA examination of the entire British Isles. Much to my suprise, they couldn't find a single drop of Norse blood in Ireland, anywhere outside the cities. Evidently, the number of Norse men (not vikings, the vikings were almost exclusively homosexual, Google up Jomsvikings) who came to Ireland as shipwrights and other craftsmen was quite small. Norse Dublin was a small town, two to three blocks wide by five to six blocks long. It was surrounded by an Irish city several square miles in size.

After the repeated conquests of the Viking cities along the coast by the O'Niall and O'Brian clans, evidently all or most of the "Gael Gall", the Irish foriegners, packed up and moved to Iceland or the Hebrides.

According to foriegn writers from Diodorus Siculus to Gerald of Wales, down to Doctor Johnson in the early 18th century, the constant feuds, cattle raids, and duels endemic to Celtic culture killed off roughly a third of the male population by the age of twenty, with another third killed or crippled by thirty. This left an enourmous number of excess women to go looking for non-Celtic husbands along the coast.

After three centuries of Irish and Scottish mothers, these people were culturally Celts, probably only a few percent Norse by blood, if that. The nasal, clipped accent of Hebridean Gaelic is probably all that remains of the Dublin dialect of Gaelic that was regarded so humorously by Irish scholars.

From [URL="http://www.orkneyjar.com"]www.orkneyjar.com[/URL]:
Shetland, Orkney and the area around Durness on the Scottish mainland were found to have the strongest Viking genetic heritage in Britain, with around 60 per cent of the male population having DNA of Norwegian origin. The remainder of the area’s population was identified as similar to the Ancient Britons, with no evidence of Anglo-Saxon or Danish influences.
In comparison, about 30 per cent of the population of the Outer Hebrides, another Viking outpost, show traces of Norwegian blood.
So the distribution of Y chromosome types in Orkney was intermediate between “Celtic areas” of Britain and Norway, indicating a shared ancestry with both populations.

Interestingly, the percentile of female DNA in the Orkney islands was about 40%, implying Norse family groups settling peaceably among native Celts. In the Hebrides there is virtually no Norse female DNA, implying Scandinavian men, outnumbered by Celtic men about seven to one, who married local girls, settled among the Irish and Scots, and "went native".
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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...(not vikings, the vikings were almost exclusively homosexual, Google up Jomsvikings)...
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:33 AM
 
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the vikings were almost exclusively homosexual.
As the Viking raiders were notorious rapists this would have come as a welcome relief. Unfortunately for the countless women that were ravaged, this premise was simply not true.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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It's pretty hard to be from an island nation, no matter how warrior-like, and not have been infiltrated. I understand that "Dublin" is a Norse name.
The Norse have a major place in the history of Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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As the Viking raiders were notorious rapists this would have come as a welcome relief. Unfortunately for the countless women that were ravaged, this premise was simply not true.
Maybe they were just exceptionally and forcefully bi-curious.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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the vikings were almost exclusively homosexual
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, doubt that.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, doubt that.
As do I. C'mon, Ed Foster, let's get back to Planet Earth, shall we? Any homo sapiens group that is "almost exclusively homosexual" is doomed to rapid extinction. This isn't a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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As do I. C'mon, Ed Foster, let's get back to Planet Earth, shall we? Any homo sapiens group that is "almost exclusively homosexual" is doomed to rapid extinction. This isn't a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact.
lol Right. But it's not just that, it's also the whole "Vikings being notorious rapists" and all.
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