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Old 10-16-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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The native American group that came to my mind was the Iroquois, who were centered in the area where I grew up; and were the people that some of my ancestors fought alongside of against the colonial rebels.

Wikipedia is good for an overview:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois

Iroquois artifacts:

Some Iroquois Artifacts

The Covenant Chain:

Covenant Chain :: The Encyclopedia of New York State :: Syracuse University Press

A current Iroquois website:

Welcome to Iroquois.net

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Old 10-16-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The native American group that came to my mind was the Iroquois, who were centered in the area where I grew up; and were the people that some of my ancestors fought alongside of against the colonial rebels.

Wikipedia is good for an overview:

Hopewell Culture - Ohio History Central - A product of the Ohio Historical Society

Iroquois artifacts:

Some Iroquois Artifacts

The Covenant Chain:

Covenant Chain :: The Encyclopedia of New York State :: Syracuse University Press

A current Iroquois website:

Welcome to Iroquois.net
I forgot about them, and I'm from NW PA. I can only plead watching too many Westerns in my misspent youth.

I should have posted this:


And this for the Iroquois:
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I think that your right about that Capt. Dan as i hear native tribes down here in New Mexico still boast about that victory by the northern Sioux on the local radio from time to time.

I also wonder about the Mississippi Mound Builders as some of their dwellings look simular to Aztecs/Mayan city dwellings/temples in Mexico/Central America as i wonder if they had large cities like they did ......

Mississippi Mound Builders Photo

They are interesting.

Has anyone else here read 1491? It's the latest findings on people indigenous to the Americas that is known mostly in the academic world. The book is for the general reader. More complex cultures and a far larger population than was previously thought.


"1491" by Charles C. Mann
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Dayton, OH
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Here in the easern US, I think the powerful tribes were the Iroqouis confederation and the Southern tribes...the Creek and Cherokee.

Locally, the Shawnee had some military sucess agains the US, mainly because of weak US military leadership.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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At the height of its power the Iroquois Confederacy was the most powerful Indian alliance on the North American Continent.The Five Nations;Mohawk,Seneca,Cayuga,Oneida,and Onondaga,used superior tactics coupled with guns obtained from the Dutch and English to crush all of their other Indian foes one by one.During the height of the Beaver Wars of the mid and late 17th century their influence and conquests spread as far away as the Mississippi Valley,a thousand miles from their homeland in what is now New York State.In the 1720's the Tuscarora were allowed to emigrate from the Carolinas and join the confederacy as the sixth nation.Their power began to decline during the French and Indian War,and even more so during the American Revolution.
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:32 AM
 
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At the height of its power the Iroquois Confederacy was the most powerful Indian alliance on the North American Continent....Their power began to decline during the French and Indian War,and even more so during the American Revolution.
For my money, the Iroquois woman Molly Brant is one of the most interesting people of the revolutionary period. Common-law wife of the immensely rich and powerful colonial nobleman Baronet William Brant, and an extremely influential figure in Iroquois politics of that era.

More info at (sorry, the site is visually annoying, but ignore it for the bio of Brant.)

Mary (Molly) Brant (http://www.novelguide.com/a/discover/ewb_02/ewb_02_00862.html - broken link)
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Old 10-17-2009, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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The Chippewas whipped the Iroquois in the Beaver Wars and expanded into territory the Iroquois had taken form the Huron earlier in the wars. The Chippewa also expanded their range westward into Minnesota and drove most of the Sioux out of the prime fur territory in the woods and onto the Great Plains. They were fighting the Iroquois and Sioux at the same time and whipped them both.

The Chippewa were also active in the French Indian Wars and among other things were with Langlade when he destroyed *****willany and provided most of the force that defeated Braddock. During Pontiac's War they captured Fort Michilimacinac from the British and provided a large part of Pontiac's force at Detroit. They came down from the Lakes to raid Kentucky during the American Revolution and during the War of 1812 gave the Americans better than got. The last fight with Indians The United States regular army had was with Chippewas at Sugar Point Minnesota in 1898, a fight which the Chippewas won and in which several soldiers including the major commanding them were killed.

Today they are the second most populous Indian nation in The United States and when Canadian Chippewa are counted are probably the most populous Indian nation in North America.

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Old 10-17-2009, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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The Chippawa/Ojibwas at one time held sway over a huge part of North America from Ohio to as far away as North Dakota,but in spite of this they played a relatively minor role in history.They formed part of a powerful alliance with the Ottawas and Pottawatomies called the Council of Three Fires.This alliance did indeed check and then expel the Iroquois advance.They were on good terms with the French,and armed with French muskets they drove out the less numerous Sioux from the western Great Lakes region.They also fought and won a bitter war with the Foxes and drove them south.As noted,they formed part of the force at Braddocks Defeat.Unlikely that they raided much,if at all,into Kentucky.North of the Ohio River boundary with Kentucky resided the powerful warlike Shawnee and their Miami allies,and these tribes conducted almost all of the raids to the south across the Ohio.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: miami, fla. enjoying the relative cool, for now ;)
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an often overlooked tribe are the seminoles of florida. the tribe never lost a battle to gubmint and never signed a treaty until well into the 20th century.

I know it's wiki or whatever but still an accurate read.

Seminole Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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At the height of its power the Iroquois Confederacy was the most powerful Indian alliance on the North American Continent.The Five Nations;Mohawk,Seneca,Cayuga,Oneida,and Onondaga,used superior tactics coupled with guns obtained from the Dutch and English to crush all of their other Indian foes one by one.During the height of the Beaver Wars of the mid and late 17th century their influence and conquests spread as far away as the Mississippi Valley,a thousand miles from their homeland in what is now New York State.In the 1720's the Tuscarora were allowed to emigrate from the Carolinas and join the confederacy as the sixth nation.Their power began to decline during the French and Indian War,and even more so during the American Revolution.
In his book, The Island at the Center of the World, about the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam, Russell Shorto makes the case that the concept of checks and balances in government employed by the Iroquois was adopted into Dutch new world practices and eventually into the United States Constitution.
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