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Old 11-15-2009, 08:36 AM
 
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I think probably all of us who are Americans were taught back in early elementary school about the Pilgrims who landed in Plymouth, Mass in 1620 and the ship i.e. the Mayflower which brought them over as being thought of as the mother ship of our country.

However the first landing and permanent settlement was actually in 1607 in Cape Henry, Virgina led by Captain Newport with three ships total as the ''Susan Constant'' was the his flagship who's crew was the first to touch the shore of the new world.

So maybe we should rethink about the mayflower being the mother ship of America??
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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So maybe we should rethink about the mayflower being the mother ship of America??

I already did, about 50 years ago.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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I realize that the nucleus of the U.S. was the Dutch and English colonies, however St. Augustine, FL was founded in 1565. As Florida was an early part of the U.S., perhaps its earliest arrivals should get at least a nod.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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I realize that the nucleus of the U.S. was the Dutch and English colonies, however St. Augustine, FL was founded in 1565. As Florida was an early part of the U.S., perhaps its earliest arrivals should get at least a nod.

Menendez was my kind of guy.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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File:Susan Constant 20070426.jpg - Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Susan_Constant_20070426.jpg - broken link)
First or not, it's a beautiful ship
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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There were also European colonists in 1598 who founded a city in 1608 at Santa Fe, New Mexico, but they probably did not all come on the same mother ship.
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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File:Susan Constant 20070426.jpg - Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Susan_Constant_20070426.jpg - broken link)
First or not, it's a beautiful ship
Can you imagine being crammed on board that ship with about 100 people taking around 66 days to cross the atlantic as that was what they averaged on those early voyages to America from Western Europe back then .
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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Don't forget the Ark and the Dove to the Leonard Calvert colony-

Google Image Result for http://www.mdoe.org/voyagesArkDoveP1.jpg

Journey
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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The Dutch in New Amsterdam were only four years after the Mayflower, when they sailed into NY harbor and made a settlement on the present-day Governor's Island.

Maybe schools should be teaching about mother ships, given the diverse arrivals it seems to be a more accurate reflection of what was going on than to focus on a single trip.
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