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Old 03-04-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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On a related note:

When I lived in Monterrey 50 years ago, my Dad took us over to Saltillo to walk the Buena Vista Battlefield. Quite a rugged place.

Most of the American KIAs were buried in a couple of spots which are now within the city's development. We checked out one of those burial locations, which at that time had become an adobe-walled block with a smelly garbage dump inside. Close examination of those walls showed many bone fragments throughout. Whether those were all American soldiers' remains, I couldn't say.
If that's the case, it it kind of disturbing to see literally how forgotten these hundreds of Americans who made the Ultimate Sacrifice are, and being treated by us today.

My Dad's research on the topic turned up a US Army officer's proposal in the early 20th century to dig up hundreds of tons of the soil from that location, load it on to railroad cars, and bring it to the US for reburial in some kind of Mexican War memorial grave. Obviously, the officer's proposal went nowhere.

Sad business, all those young lives snuffed out so far away from home and totally forgotten.
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Old 03-06-2011, 05:57 AM
 
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But it does give it the ability to do so.

Under what circumstances does one nation have a "right" of conquest over another? All through history, conquests have always been a matter of the more powerful nation taking advantage of the weakness of another.

Did Mexico have a right to revolt against the existing Spanish government? Did Spain ever have a right to take those lands away from the natives who were there first?

If the US returned the SW territories which it gained as a consequence of the Mexican War, will Mexico then do the "right" thing and give those lands back to the Pueblos, Kiowas, Apaches and Comanches?


Property ownership throughout history has always been a matter of taking it by force and then having the ability to protect it. There is no such thing as a particular "right" of land ownership, at least humans have never behaved as though such a right existed.

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US annexes Mexican territory, US settles Mexican territory, Mexican resettles Mexican territory.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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US annexes Mexican territory, US settles Mexican territory, Mexican resettles Mexican territory.
"Mexican territory"? No....it isn't.

Besides, do you really think the new "immigrants" would vote to rejoin the hellhole of corruption that is the Mexican government?


BTW - The US STOLE the lands that were "annexed" by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo at the point of a gun (and a wad of cash).

The exception was Texas, which had won it's own independence by shedding their own blood.
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