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Old 05-04-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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By the time of the outbreak of the Civil War in 1861, the slaves owned by the Five Nations numbered approximately ten thousand. Unlike slavery in the southern states, the form of slavery in Indian Territory widely varied. The Creek and Seminole often intermarried with their slaves and allowed a broad range of freedoms. The Cherokee resisted intermarriage but pursued benign relationships on their small farms. The Choctaw and Chickasaw more closely approximated the system of white slave holders on the cotton plantations.

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Old 05-04-2010, 04:03 PM
 
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Your point is?????
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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This has been discussed in the genealogy thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/12972954-post24.html
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:49 PM
 
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Your point is?????
What's your reason for asking that question????

Anyway I think people need a broader view of slavery. Yes it was largely about whites in both the north and south owning Black slaves but there was more to slavery than just Black and white. There were also Black slave owners. Anyway take from this what you will.

I also think this complicates the slave reparations issue. Where do Native American and Black slave owners fit into this?

UWEC Geog188 Vogeler - Free Black Slaveowners in South Carolina

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Old 05-04-2010, 06:08 PM
 
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Black people were simply a form of currency. Anyone who wanted to get invoved with the economy had to have slaves. The fact that Indians and black people had slaves bodes well for the wealth of the two groups. It speaks of their invovlement in the mercantile system. Its too bad we can't look at slavery more abstractly as an economic system. Its too easy to look backward into history and superimpose our current values on it. People get too emotional over the horrors of slavery.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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Throughout the years I've seen various movies and documentries on slavery. They all primarily focused on slavery as far as whites enslaving Blacks. Since it is a fact that some Native Americans and Blacks owned slaves then my question is at what point do their involvement in slave owning get injected into the conversation?
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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white people didn't enslave black people per se, For slave owning Whites, Indians and Blacks it was just a tradition hundreds of years old. It was esentially the only way to build wealth. A very small percentage of southern blacks owned slaves. I would guess less than a 1000.
People didn't feel any particular kinship to one another based on race. Native Americans fought with the white man against other native Americans, Irish immigrants were not considered white people, and a freeman and a slave had little in common with each other. You have to remember they were still burning witches for nearly 100 years of the slave era 1619-1700?

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Old 05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
 
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When something is both legal and economically advantageous, there will be people doing it, regardless of their background.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:15 PM
 
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What's your reason for asking that question????

Anyway I think people need a broader view of slavery. Yes it was largely about whites in both the north and south owning Black slaves but there was more to slavery than just Black and white. There were also Black slave owners. Anyway take from this what you will.

I also think this complicates the slave reparations issue. Where do Native American and Black slave owners fit into this?

UWEC Geog188 Vogeler - Free Black Slaveowners in South Carolina
Let's stop with the lies. In 1860 99.99% of the slaves were in Southern and border states. Please stop with the lies.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:18 PM
 
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Throughout the years I've seen various movies and documentries on slavery. They all primarily focused on slavery as far as whites enslaving Blacks. Since it is a fact that some Native Americans and Blacks owned slaves then my question is at what point do their involvement in slave owning get injected into the conversation?
Inconsequential number of slaves were owned by Native Americans. Confront the issue. The South was an evil institution what needed to be exterminated like a cockroach infestation.
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