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I always have, so I guess so. I've always got a window cracked, but that's about it unless it's a nice day. My wife smokes too, so when the kids were little, they got a double dose of it.
But, guess what? They're all in their 30's now and in perfect health. So are their kids. Gee, who'da thunk it? According to the alarmist's, they should be dead by now and their offspring retarded or crippled with birth defects. My wife and I should have died long ago too, or be going around in wheelchairs carrying an oxygen bottle, but we're not. In fact, when I get a physical, my doctor always laments that I'm in perfect health and he can't figure out why. And, I'm 62 years old.
It just defies conventional wisdom, doesn't it?
Yet, if I'm driving across Arkansas or Louisiana or in a few other states smoking with the grandkids in the car, I can be ticketed for endangering their health. On the other hand, I can take those same kids across those same states talking on a cell phone, jamming to the radio, eating, changing clothes or a hundred other things I can do behind the steering wheel at 70 mph and nobody gives a damn. You tell me...why is that?
And, by the way, I caught the implied question you asked. I suspect you knew how I'd answer, so the next thought is that I must be an awful parent, but you'll be too polite to say so.
I like to believe I'm quite polite however my Troops feel otherwise. Smoking in your enclosed vehicle doesn't make you a horrible Parent,Selfish but not completely horrid. Feeling it's just smoke and my children made it to 30+ with two smoking parents could make you appear awful a parent.
Well I was more talking about - the pleasure of smoking is over rated - no more enjoyable than a cup of coffee and probably less. frequently smokers long to smoke, but the actual act is not so fun.
I noticed cravings to smoke, but after taking a few drags its not so enjoyable -
its not worth the health consequences for a relatively mild stimulant - you get cleaner forms of nicotine delivery, and other supps and stimulants which are healther ways of getting perked up instead, getting smelly and enduring all the health worries
Often watch smokers totally devoted to smoking - they will go outside in any weather, prioritise smoking over lots of things, they will make themselves smelly, dirty, keep smoking even smoke when they have the flu or cold.
As some who has smoked before - Isn't it all a bit over rated - I mean yeah once in a while its can be nice with a beer, but all the time, everyday - Is it really that much fun
Its really quite boring all that smoking, not to mention disgusting and bad for you.
Actually smoking indicates some sort of mental illness. Keep in mind, it is such things as depression, anxiety, bi-polar issues. Just google.
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Originally Posted by Tightwad The anti-smoking crowd just love a pre-scripted argument that they put no thought into.
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Hey, tightwad, I did a lot of research. There is second had smoke, then there is third hand smoke. That is when you have so much nicotine on/in your skin, hair, clothes, if you hold a baby the baby gets those toxins
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I @ssume, tightwad, you are a smoker? Don't know if the below is allowed on here. There is more information then this.
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Hey, tightwad, I did a lot of research. There is second had smoke, then there is third hand smoke. That is when you have so much nicotine on/in your skin, hair, clothes, if you hold a baby the baby gets those toxins
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Oh my, What a shame! all that work and I can't read it it's so messed up.
I can tell you that some of your research is flawed rather badly.
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all that work and I can't read it it's so messed up. 
