Any Gun Enthusiasts Here? (shooting, shotgun, legal, pistol)

[sarahkate_m]

Originally Posted by ferretkona

A big warning to all that visit CA gun shows: BATF and the county sheriffs try and trap you into selling firearms at the entrance and parking lot.
Some guy in a old flannel shirt will express interest in any rifle/shotgun or handgun and ask to purchase it. He will arrest you! If you are at all interested tell him we need to find a transfer station to do this legally and he will walk away. They have teams roving the parking lot - total entrapment!

Here in CA all gun purchases must be handled by a dealer. Even a private party to private party must go thru a dealer.
We used to have great gun shows, the Pomona LA county fairgrounds had 12 large buildings and the walkways between of dealers and private sellers. Taco sellers, live music. Re enactments.

All gun purchases have waiting periods even on used firearms. Now, you can purchase accessories, gun parts, ammo, uniforms, beef jerky. Ear doctors fitting custom earplugs. But the old days of cash and carry are long gone.

How strange: great heads up! It seems that the burden of responsibility should be on the seller, not the buyer. It's not the same as... prostitution. Jeez.

Thanks, ferrotkona!

[rd2007]

thanks for that info. That is pretty crazy for sure. California is a beautiful state, but I will never understand why they try to protect the guilty and punish the innocent for everything. I am all for being careful and trying to keep guns out of the wrong hands, but that is not the way to do it.
Another thing I noticed about gun shows are the prices for used guns are higher than what you can get a new gun for. I did not understand that one at all. At the one I went to I was looking for a SIG Mosquito, which I could get at Academy for $300 brand new. The show prices ranged from $325-350 and they were mostly used. That didn't make any sense at all.

BTW, I was talking to the owner of a local gun store yesterday about the 5.7 x 28 rounds that fool used at Ft. Hood and he said the prices shot up the next day. I had never heard of them before the shooting, but they're obviously (unfortunately in that case) very effective.

[Magnum Mike]

Originally Posted by rd2007

thanks for that info. That is pretty crazy for sure. California is a beautiful state, but I will never understand why they try to protect the guilty and punish the innocent for everything. I am all for being careful and trying to keep guns out of the wrong hands, but that is not the way to do it.
Another thing I noticed about gun shows are the prices for used guns are higher than what you can get a new gun for. I did not understand that one at all. At the one I went to I was looking for a SIG Mosquito, which I could get at Academy for $300 brand new. The show prices ranged from $325-350 and they were mostly used. That didn't make any sense at all.

BTW, I was talking to the owner of a local gun store yesterday about the 5.7 x 28 rounds that fool used at Ft. Hood and he said the prices shot up the next day. I had never heard of them before the shooting, but they're obviously (unfortunately in that case) very effective.

I'm not saying that liberals are anti-gun, there are a few that strongly support the Second Amendment, but from the looks of it, when you have voters that keep electing anti-gun politicians like Dianne Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi, that should give you an idea why things are they are in California, and other states as well, like New York, which the voters in New York City speak pretty much for everyone in that state, and they keep electing senator Charles Schumer.

[ferretkona]

I did just remember a small loophole.
Antiques, I bought a Winchester 1897 and walked out with it. I understand anything 50 yrs and older qualifies. Includes some AK's. But some handguns do not qualify. If it does not use a modern cartridge it can be a cash/carry.

[rd2007]

that is interesting about antiques as the AK was introduced in 1947, so it is now 62 years old. That seems really freaking old when you look at it that way.
Still one of the best rifles in the world, though, and some people would probably call it the best due to it's ability to survive everything. I finally get to experience one tomorrow. Luckily the one I'm buying is completely unrestricted and includes a 30-round magazine

[Tin Knocker]

Originally Posted by ferretkona

I did just remember a small loophole.
Antiques, I bought a Winchester 1897 and walked out with it. I understand anything 50 yrs and older qualifies. Includes some AK's. But some handguns do not qualify. If it does not use a modern cartridge it can be a cash/carry.

Antiques are pre 1899 including replica's as long as they dont use readily available ammunition. In otherwords a Marlin or Win 1894 chambered in 44 mag dont count. A true antique needs no paperwork. Over 50 qualifies as CCR (Curio-relic) and can be bought with a CCR-FFL which is easier to get than a retail FFL. Its intended to help collectors though & not meant for buying & selling as a business. So, while you can certainly use one to buy & sell guns you can get into trouble if you get stupid with it.
I'v been meaning to get one for a few years now but been dragging my feet.

[yellfire]

This is weird, and I don't know the exact law that applies, but in FL you can buy and sell guns at yard sales. The first yard sale I had here, the "early birds" asked if I had any guns. I guess I looked puzzled because they explained that it was legal in Florida. Again, I haven't researched it so don't hold me to the specifics, but the last yard sale I had was in 2007 - same thing - got any guns? At least I knew to expect the question!

[NVplumber]

Good tip an the CA gun shows. I don't go to any shooting related events in CA any more, boycotting the place, but I WILL pass it on. As an aside, I just got my Rem 788 .243 back in a wheel and deal. I gave it to my oldest son as a graduation present, and he no longer hunts, but wanted a 1911 for home defense. He lives in the city now. Oh, I love this rifle. 18 inch semi bull, honest to God walnut stock. I put a 6x24 on it and am refinishing the stock in ebony with a bed and float job. It was a shooter before all this,I'm thinking the yotes better be nervous as hell for sure now. I like the .243. It's about the most versatile cartrige I can think of. Jack rabbits at 400 yards to mule deer at the same. The 55 grain federal Vshock does a number on the yotes and feral dogs I get plauged with, and it's just a SOLID lil' shooter. Shame Remington don't make it any more, but, I got mine!

[jdavid93225]

Wow! I've never heard of any such thing at the gun shows in California. I guess it may be because I don't go to the shows to sell guns, so I've never had a reason to take one in with me. I've never witnessed anything of the sort in the parking lots either.

After hearing the warning, though, I can't help but wonder if there isn't something similar going on in Florida with the yard sales. Even if the "customer" says it's legal, I would make certain that it is before ever offering anything for sale. I would probably steer clear of anyone asking for guns at a yard sale or outside of a gun show.

Well, I managed to get by the gun show in Ventura yesterday, and even though I walked in almost as soon as they opened the doors, there was still a huge wait for ammo and components as soon as I got inside. I saw about ten people I knew there, not counting any of the vendors. Ferretkona was right about the variety of things that are offered. I saw people selling coins, books, radio control helicopters, sausage, jerky, "Bionic Band" wrist bands, Christmas ornaments, and even a set of used, false teeth. Oh yeah, there were even a few people there selling knives, guns, and related items!

It was a decent show, as far as recent California shows go. It was nothing like the old Pomona shows, though. I guess the big Las Vegas show is "the place to be" now, though I've never been to it.

[RussianSky]

Originally Posted by Magnum Mike

I'm not saying that liberals are anti-gun, there are a few that strongly support the Second Amendment, but from the looks of it, when you have voters that keep electing anti-gun politicians like Dianne Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi, that should give you an idea why things are they are in California, and other states as well, like New York, which the voters in New York City speak pretty much for everyone in that state, and they keep electing senator Charles Schumer.