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Old 05-13-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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Seriously, who watches the NBA?? I mean, it gets all this media attention yet I know very few people who actually watch it. Me and the vast majority of my friends get so pumped for the Stanley Cup playoffs to even notice the NBA even exists.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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I don't understand the OP, es*n and TNT are pay channels as well.

we're so used to paying for cable that we don't even think of it as pay t.v., it used to be a radical idea to pay for t.v.

unless you absolutely can't get VS now, and that's improved alot and will be getting still better with NBC owning them.
I recognize that ESPN and TNT are both cable channels, but they are part of any basic cable package a person has to have these days to get TV at all. On the contrary, the VS channel is NOT a basic channel. It is a channel on the third of five upgrades on Dish Network (at least where I live). Now granted, that is only an additional $15 dollars a month more than the basic cable package, but the issue I have is not about the $$$$. It is just about principal. Why should I be forced to go that extra mile just for national hockey playoffs when all three of the other major sports playoffs are broadcasted on nationally televised channels? I can understand regular season games, but these are the playoffs.

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Seriously, who watches the NBA?? I mean, it gets all this media attention yet I know very few people who actually watch it. Me and the vast majority of my friends get so pumped for the Stanley Cup playoffs to even notice the NBA even exists.
It is obviously popular enough to put just about every other sport in the backseat. You are a major hockey fan. There are major BB fans as well. And that's totally cool. I'm not trying to knock BB. I enjoy watching a game of hoops too (more so college hoops). I just wish Hockey got equal media respect, which is FAR from the current situation.

And looking at the television line-up for the conference finals, it is going to be the same bull sh*t as usual. Only two nationally televised games out of a potential 14. That is, unless, the TV line-up is tentative.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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I recognize that ESPN and TNT are both cable channels, but they are part of any basic cable package a person has to have these days to get TV at all. On the contrary, the VS channel is NOT a basic channel. It is a channel on the third of five upgrades on Dish Network (at least where I live). Now granted, that is only an additional $15 dollars a month more than the basic cable package, but the issue I have is not about the $$$$. It is just about principal. Why should I be forced to go that extra mile just for national hockey playoffs when all three of the other major sports playoffs are broadcasted on nationally televised channels? I can understand regular season games, but these are the playoffs.



It is obviously popular enough to put just about every other sport in the backseat. You are a major hockey fan. There are major BB fans as well. And that's totally cool. I'm not trying to knock BB. I enjoy watching a game of hoops too (more so college hoops). I just wish Hockey got equal media respect, which is FAR from the current situation.

And looking at the television line-up for the conference finals, it is going to be the same bull sh*t as usual. Only two nationally televised games out of a potential 14. That is, unless, the TV line-up is tentative.


it's basic package for me, right by the local Fox affiliate and Speed, Golf channels for me. Of course I still can't get the NHL Network at all, it's all relative, but VS will be getting better with NBC's power behind them. Would be great to get multiple more games during the reg. season on NHLN and see the saturday night double header on the CBC (at least they used to broadcast those on NHLN). I have digital cable sports tier as well and have 3 Fox College Sports regional networks and can see 5-6 Div. 1-A hockey games a week during the reg. season but only 2 NHL games. So again, it's all relative.

and no matter what, hockey is and always will be a niche sport. Some ratings in some cities are as good as national ratings for baseball, basketball but nationally it falters. And if hockey couldn't do it 15-20 years ago it's not going to do it now with all the different sports out there and technologies to consume them.

boxing no? cage fighting, mixed martial arts
alpine skiiing no? snowboarding, giant tube wtevr it's called etc.
indy car or nascar no? well, there's an entire channel called Speed
like golf? good, b/c there's entire channel to consume you time.
same with tennis.
espn U and CBS have entire channels devoted to college athletics.

it's just a more competitive market out there and you can watch it on your phone so the NHL is what it is and it ain't changing!

and no espn won't help, last time they were on espn it was for 14 years in a row and horseracing and poker and figure skating got better ratings so no, espn won't hype and market the sport better.
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Old 05-14-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Seriously, who watches the NBA?? I mean, it gets all this media attention yet I know very few people who actually watch it. Me and the vast majority of my friends get so pumped for the Stanley Cup playoffs to even notice the NBA even exists.
A great majority of the nation watches the NBA over NHL. The ratings are up. But I think the Stanley Cup playoffs are up as well. For the NBA, this has probably been the most exciting playoffs in recent memory. That said, I was always one to believe that the Stanley Cup playoffs is better than the NBA playoffs.

I too was looking for Detroit-San Jose, but it's not offered on regular packages on Dish. You have to order the entire sports package just to get Versus and I'm not doing that. Sucks but I hope the one person is correct since they will be rebranded as NBC Sports and they move to regular channels.
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Old 05-14-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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Seriously, who watches the NBA?? I mean, it gets all this media attention yet I know very few people who actually watch it. Me and the vast majority of my friends get so pumped for the Stanley Cup playoffs to even notice the NBA even exists.
NBA is a lot more popular then NHL in USA.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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NBA is a lot more popular then NHL in USA.
And much of the reason for that sits at the city and county levels. There is no city in America that does not have public basketball courts where people can play for no charge, yet there are tons of cities with populations over 100,000 (and entire counties with much more than that) that don't have a single ice rink. It comes down to $$$ and maintenance, as does everything.

Basketball courts are great for the inner city youth. They are cheap to maintain and they work wonders as methods for drug and gang diversion.

I hear many people say, "ice hockey makes no sense to me", and I respond "no duh?, because you've never been exposed to it". People stick to what they know. It's human nature. If you were not raised around it, or people that are into it, odds are fairly high that it will never captivate and maintain one's interests.

This needs to change. I think ice hockey is one of the most intense sports to watch. I like BB too, but it doesn't captivate me the way a nice, dirty, intense hockey game does. Hockey plays at a completely different level.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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And much of the reason for that sits at the city and county levels. There is no city in America that does not have public basketball courts where people can play for no charge, yet there are tons of cities with populations over 100,000 (and entire counties with much more than that) that don't have a single ice rink. It comes down to $$$ and maintenance, as does everything.

Basketball courts are great for the inner city youth. They are cheap to maintain and they work wonders as methods for drug and gang diversion.

I hear many people say, "ice hockey makes no sense to me", and I respond "no duh?, because you've never been exposed to it". People stick to what they know. It's human nature. If you were not raised around it, or people that are into it, odds are fairly high that it will never captivate and maintain one's interests.

This needs to change. I think ice hockey is one of the most intense sports to watch. I like BB too, but it doesn't captivate me the way a nice, dirty, intense hockey game does. Hockey plays at a completely different level.
What about Cricket? I watch Cricket also.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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What about Cricket? I watch Cricket also.
Isn't that a wireless company.....
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Isn't that a wireless company.....
Lol, yes.

Its also the second most popular sport in the world next to soccer.
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