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Old 06-21-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Manila
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HEP! HEP! HOORAY! Anyways welcome back to the NHL, Winnipeg!

And the news is coming out now all over the place and Twitter! About friggin time, eh?! ;D

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Old 07-28-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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Yeah, a small hamlet is back in the NHL.
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Yeah, a small hamlet is back in the NHL.
Winnipeg is larger than Atlanta or even Boston.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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Winnipeg is larger than Atlanta or even Boston.
Metro Atlanta has 5.7 million people.
Metro Winnipeg has about 750,000 people.

Atlanta is about 8 times larger than Winnipeg.

City proper lines don't mean anything.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Metro Atlanta has 5.7 million people.
Metro Winnipeg has about 750,000 people.

Atlanta is about 8 times larger than Winnipeg.

City proper lines don't mean anything.
Population doesn't matter one bit...what matters is fan support, and there will be much more of it in Winnipeg than in Atlanta for a hockey team. Hockey is a Canadian (and northern US) sport, and Atlanta even has only lukewarm support for its decidedly American sports like baseball and football. The Braves' fan support is downright pitiful considering they are a good team and will likely be in the postseason.

If population was the only prerequisite to having a pro team, would the Green Bay Packers be as successful as they are in an isolated small city about the same size as Scranton, PA?

Now I say its time to pull all of these hockey teams out of places like Phoenix, Carolina, Dallas, Miami, etc, and move them back up north where they belong.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Population doesn't matter one bit...what matters is fan support, and there will be much more of it in Winnipeg than in Atlanta for a hockey team. Hockey is a Canadian (and northern US) sport, and Atlanta even has only lukewarm support for its decidedly American sports like baseball and football. The Braves' fan support is downright pitiful considering they are a good team and will likely be in the postseason.
Atlanta has scores of pro sports fans. The problem is, Atlanta is a place people actually want to move to, and is full of transients. In places like Winnipeg, everyone was a Jet fan. The majority of people who live in Winnipeg are from Winnipeg. Atlanta is different, because people move from all over to ATL and bring their allegences with them. There are Packer bars, Steeler bars, Cub bars, all sorts of places for relocated fans to congregate. The collective interest of the local teams reflects this transient population.

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If population was the only prerequisite to having a pro team, would the Green Bay Packers be as successful as they are in an isolated small city about the same size as Scranton, PA?
As recently as 1994, the Packers played a portion of their schedule in Milwaukee. The Packers are successful right now because of one guy, Brett Favre. Prior to his arrival, Green Bay was an NFL outpost. No one wanted to play there, and they had trouble competing due to market limitations. The Packers are successful now thanks to Favre's legacy, and the NFL's revenue sharing structure. Are you aware that the Green Bay Packers are a commuinity owned, non-profit team? This is because if a traditional owner owned the Packers, they would not be in Green Bay anymore.

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Now I say its time to pull all of these hockey teams out of places like Phoenix, Carolina, Dallas, Miami, etc, and move them back up north where they belong.
Here's hoping a southern team knocks Winnipeg out of the playoffs should they ever be so lucky to make it.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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Population doesn't matter one bit...what matters is fan support, and there will be much more of it in Winnipeg than in Atlanta for a hockey team. Hockey is a Canadian (and northern US) sport, and Atlanta even has only lukewarm support for its decidedly American sports like baseball and football. The Braves' fan support is downright pitiful considering they are a good team and will likely be in the postseason.

If population was the only prerequisite to having a pro team, would the Green Bay Packers be as successful as they are in an isolated small city about the same size as Scranton, PA?

Now I say its time to pull all of these hockey teams out of places like Phoenix, Carolina, Dallas, Miami, etc, and move them back up north where they belong.
Green Bay is a special case, considering the long history, and one of a winning team.

Furthermore, Green Bay is a team owned by the residents of the city. Residents have stock in the team. No other professional team has such a relationship.
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Winnipeg is larger than Atlanta or even Boston.
Uhhh. No.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Manila
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Uhhh. No.
When it comes to city limits, yes its true but metropolitan populations are a different story!
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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As recently as 1994, the Packers played a portion of their schedule in Milwaukee. The Packers are successful right now because of one guy, Brett Favre. Prior to his arrival, Green Bay was an NFL outpost. No one wanted to play there, and they had trouble competing due to market limitations. The Packers are successful now thanks to Favre's legacy, and the NFL's revenue sharing structure. Are you aware that the Green Bay Packers are a commuinity owned, non-profit team? This is because if a traditional owner owned the Packers, they would not be in Green Bay anymore.
Eh? You never heard of Vince Lombardi, Bart Starr, Paul Hornung, Jim Taylor and etc.??
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