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Old 06-28-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The 2011 Hall class: Who should get in now - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN

Any thoughts? Remember its not the Hall of very good. I like Niewendyk, Gilmour and Andreychuk, probably Belfour, but not Lindros or Bure (too many injuries and too short being great). No for Oates and Larmer, just cause you get on a great team like the Wings had, doesn't means you should ride in. Nor should you be punished because you were on a historically bad/poorly run franchise.

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Old 06-28-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Belfour should have had to wait a while, 1 don't think he's a 1st ballot HOF at all.....Gilmour and Niewendyk, I could see that, even though Gilmour played for too many teams IMO.
Howe should have been in a long time ago.
Housley and Broten, not being in it, is a joke.
The HOF lost a lot of cred, by electing Federko and Gilles, in the last 10 years.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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These were all players I grew up watching, on TV anyway.

All of the players mentioned were great at least at one point in their careers. Pavel Bure was nothing short of amazing. Niewendyk I always felt was underrated. Lindros indeed had a lot of injuries and probably didn't meet the high expectations he had coming in, but when he was healthy he was a hell of a player. Ed Belfour to me was always in the shadow of Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur, but he'll get in the HoF eventually.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:17 PM
 
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These were all players I grew up watching, on TV anyway.

All of the players mentioned were great at least at one point in their careers. Pavel Bure was nothing short of amazing. Niewendyk I always felt was underrated. Lindros indeed had a lot of injuries and probably didn't meet the high expectations he had coming in, but when he was healthy he was a hell of a player. Ed Belfour to me was always in the shadow of Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur, but he'll get in the HoF eventually.
he did get in today....even though I don't think he should have...
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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As much as I was a North Star fan, I agree that Ciccarelli being the first Star in was a joke. Neal where are you?
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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To the OP, Adam Oates deserves to be in. He led the league in assists 3x, recorded 90+ assists 2x, 80+ 3x, and 60+ 10x. He recorded 64 assists as a 39 year old. He wasn't a goal scorer. He was a playmaker and dominated until he was 40 years old. He deserves to be in.

And if anyone deserves it, it's Pat Burns. A disgrace that he's not in.
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Old 06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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I'd also cast a vote for Oates. Highest point total for any player eligible for the Hall who isn't in yet. Only Wayne Gretzky had more assists in the 1990s and is sixth all-time. No other 39-year-old in the league's history had 64 assists in a season. If hockey is a team game - and it is - then Oates should be in the Hall of Fame. No question about it.
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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Thinking some more on Lindros - his injury history was a direct result of the way he played the game. He was one of a rare breed of captains/scorers/team stars etc. who also hit hard and dropped the gloves when he needed to. Lindros was captain, scorer and enforcer rolled into one. As such, people roughed him up a lot more than they would have a Gretzky or Lemieux, and should maybe be looked at in a different way other than just comparing his career stats with any and all other HoF centers.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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How were Oates numbers as a Capital?
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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Thinking some more on Lindros - his injury history was a direct result of the way he played the game. He was one of a rare breed of captains/scorers/team stars etc. who also hit hard and dropped the gloves when he needed to. Lindros was captain, scorer and enforcer rolled into one. As such, people roughed him up a lot more than they would have a Gretzky or Lemieux, and should maybe be looked at in a different way other than just comparing his career stats with any and all other HoF centers.
Yes, the Legion of Doom was fun to watch. Sadly Lindros was great for a while, but I remember him more for concussions and holding out with Dad as agent.
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