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Old 03-11-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I haven't heard any rumors but the coach doesn't like working with him either. Personally I wish Neil Smith was never dismissed but just about anyone could set a good direction for this team.We do have a good young core but we have to find a way of bringing in established talent too,and not guys on their last legs and other teams rejects.

Well.....that brings us full circle back to wanting to bring in established talent again and no "established" free agent talent when given a choice between siging with a contender with a history of savy management and the current circus going on at the Island is going to chose the Island ?
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Well.....that brings us full circle back to wanting to bring in established talent again and no "established" free agent talent when given a choice between siging with a contender with a history of savy management and the current circus going on at the Island is going to chose the Island ?
This is why we will probably have to pay a premium for someone to sign with us. We'll also have to sell the fact that we are copying the Pittsburgh model and trying to create a dynasty with our young talent.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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Just popping in to say Okposo is the freaking man. That is all.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Just popping in to say Okposo is the freaking man. That is all.
Hopefully management is smart enough to keep him around!
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is why we will probably have to pay a premium for someone to sign with us. We'll also have to sell the fact that we are copying the Pittsburgh model and trying to create a dynasty with our young talent.

OK....thats a plan but how do you convince free agents that Garth Snow is the next Ray Shero and capable of creating a dynasty ?
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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OK....thats a plan but how do you convince free agents that Garth Snow is the next Ray Shero and capable of creating a dynasty ?
Even bad organizations can attract solid free agents if they promise them alot of $$$ and also promise to surround them with talent. Face it,to really prove it we will have to spend 'big time' to prove we are serious.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Even bad organizations can attract solid free agents if they promise them alot of $$$ and also promise to surround them with talent. Face it,to really prove it we will have to spend 'big time' to prove we are serious.
Name one big talent player that signed with a bad organization ? Name one organization that has built a winning team by overpaying talent and then trying to find other available talent ? Its not a successful plan. Take a look at the teams who are in the mix of contenders year after year and even how the Islanders of the early 80s were built........all built through the draft from the goal out. Sure these teams may pick up a piece or two at the trade deadline for the playoffs or add a particular free agent in the summer to fill a particular need but no one builds a teams through all free agent signings. Perhaps at one time when there was no payroll cap high revenue teams could stock up on free agents but those days are long gone and if you overpay for talent you don't have enough money for the rest of the positions. The Islanders may have a few prospects worth keeping but they need to clean house pretty much from top to bottom and get people who can evalute talent and build through the draft.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Name one big talent player that signed with a bad organization ? Name one organization that has built a winning team by overpaying talent and then trying to find other available talent ? Its not a successful plan. Take a look at the teams who are in the mix of contenders year after year and even how the Islanders of the early 80s were built........all built through the draft from the goal out. Sure these teams may pick up a piece or two at the trade deadline for the playoffs or add a particular free agent in the summer to fill a particular need but no one builds a teams through all free agent signings. Perhaps at one time when there was no payroll cap high revenue teams could stock up on free agents but those days are long gone and if you overpay for talent you don't have enough money for the rest of the positions. The Islanders may have a few prospects worth keeping but they need to clean house pretty much from top to bottom and get people who can evalute talent and build through the draft.
Considering the players on the team which are pretty much young guys who will be great role players but very few stars,only Okposo and Tavares appear to have star potential.They will probably not make drastic changes.It needs to start with a new GM,finally getting rid of DP by offering some type of buyout and then making a commitment to a fairly young and HEALTHY goalie. Add about 2 front line scorers and this team can be a playoff caliber team even though not an elite team. As for a team that does not draft but goes free agent crazy,that would be the Rangers! Especially the last 10 years.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:51 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Considering the players on the team which are pretty much young guys who will be great role players but very few stars,only Okposo and Tavares appear to have star potential.They will probably not make drastic changes.It needs to start with a new GM,finally getting rid of DP by offering some type of buyout and then making a commitment to a fairly young and HEALTHY goalie. Add about 2 front line scorers and this team can be a playoff caliber team even though not an elite team. As for a team that does not draft but goes free agent crazy,that would be the Rangers! Especially the last 10 years.

Exactly....and you see what they've accomplished.....they probably won't even make the playoffs. As far as getting a young, healthy promising goalie theres none out there to sign and if a team has one on the farm they're certainly not going to trade him.....no.....you have to draft these guys and then build from the goal out. We (Flyers) played Chicago today and beat them and now play the Rangers tomorrow. I hate the Rangers and would love nothing more than to see us drive one of the last nails needed into their playoff coffin !!!
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Exactly....and you see what they've accomplished.....they probably won't even make the playoffs. As far as getting a young, healthy promising goalie theres none out there to sign and if a team has one on the farm they're certainly not going to trade him.....no.....you have to draft these guys and then build from the goal out. We (Flyers) played Chicago today and beat them and now play the Rangers tomorrow. I hate the Rangers and would love nothing more than to see us drive one of the last nails needed into their playoff coffin !!!
I despise the Rangers.I hate them almost as much as any team in any sport and they pay and are rarely successful to the fullest.There are enough goalies that you can build around but we do have some solid ones in the minors that just need to be given a chance.We do have Roloson for 1 more year so it would be great to see them bring up a rookie as the #2 and give him some playing time next year and see if he can be part of the future but like I said,we do have a good core but need to bring in a few and maybe even trade a pick or 2 for established forwards before or during the draft.One thing is for certain though.....DUMP DP NOW, AND HOPEFULLY GARTH TOO!!!
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