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Old 11-21-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Lethbridge, AB
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I just don't think it should be promoted, and as someone else said, headshots need to be banned.

But personally, I prefer a good skating game, olympic style, than players getting their feelings hurt so bad by a hard check (which is part of the game) that the feel they have to go punch someone and start a brawl..
Fights generally don't start over clean, legit plays (no matter how hard a check may have been).

They're used far more strategically than you'd imagine.

They're used, probably first and foremost for retaliation for dirty play. Think of it as a way to address on ice bullying.

Some forwards use them as a way of creating space for themselves or to avoid excessive defensive pressure. It's a way of using intimidation as a way of creating skating room for yourself. Gordie Howe, for example, was famous for doing this.

They're an excellent tool for shifting momentum. Aside from a goal, there really isn't anything that boosts a team's morale (and affects the crowd) more than the outcome of a fight.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:48 AM
 
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Fights generally don't start over clean, legit plays (no matter how hard a check may have been).

They're used far more strategically than you'd imagine.

They're used, probably first and foremost for retaliation for dirty play. Think of it as a way to address on ice bullying.

Some forwards use them as a way of creating space for themselves or to avoid excessive defensive pressure. It's a way of using intimidation as a way of creating skating room for yourself. Gordie Howe, for example, was famous for doing this.

They're an excellent tool for shifting momentum. Aside from a goal, there really isn't anything that boosts a team's morale (and affects the crowd) more than the outcome of a fight.
I hear ya! Thanks for the input.

I admit, I'm a casual fan so I don't totally get the nuances of the game....been to a couple of minor league hockey games and really enjoyed them. I'm just a bit of a sports freak all around.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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I just don't think it should be promoted, and as someone else said, headshots need to be banned.

But personally, I prefer a good skating game, olympic style, than players getting their feelings hurt so bad by a hard check (which is part of the game) that the feel they have to go punch someone and start a brawl..
Definitely agree with this. I love Olympic hockey. The NHL is just a different animal, it's such a grind and the competition is so thick that there has to be stress relievers, things they can laugh about on the bench ect.

I can't imagine some of the hits these guys would be dishing out without an enforcer to worry about..
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Fights generally don't start over clean, legit plays (no matter how hard a check may have been).

Lots of fights, that occurred the last few seasons, come right after clean, legit checks. It's one of the things that is wrong today. That's not how it used to be.
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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This is more like it.


Milan Lucic vs Paul Gaustad Nov 23, 2011 - NESN feed - YouTube
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Morgantown, WV
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No, keep the fights.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Absolutely not. It gives jobs to "tough guys" who would otherwise be worthless.
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:35 PM
 
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Another fight to my liking.


Jared Boll vs Darcy Hordichuk Dec 2, 2011 - YouTube
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Lethbridge, AB
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Absolutely not. It gives jobs to "tough guys" who would otherwise be worthless.
Yeah, like that Milan Lucic character in the video two posts above yours. Absolutely worthless, can't skate, can't score, nothing.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:34 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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So was Boogard but everyone loved him and his was pure class.
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