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Old 04-08-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...90/118-2008-09

Nice sporadic attendance by the Penguins. I especially like the year with 11,877 average attendance. If you look at the Flyers average attendance it stays almost exactly the same every year, sellouts. The only major change in attendance for for the flyers was when they expanded their arena by 2k seats and filled those up.
Yeah, the "year" (singular noun).


Penguins average home attendance by season as a percentage of capacity
1989-1990: 94.6%
1990-1991: 94.0%
1991-1992: 94.4%
1992-1993: 95.1%
1993-1994: 98.7%
1994-1995: 95.1%
1995-1996: 95.9%
1996-1997: 98.5%
1997-1998: 89.0%
1998-1999: 87.5%
1999-2000: 91.2%
2000-2001: 96.4%
2001-2002: 87.9%
2002-2003: 87.1%
2003-2004: 70.1%
2005-2006: 93.3%
2006-2007: 97.0%
2007-2008: 100.8%
2008-2009: 100.2%
2009-2010: 100.8%

Penguins average home attendance by period as a percentage of capacity
1989-1998: 95.0%

1998-2004: 86.7%
(1998-2003: 90.0%)

2005-2010: 98.4%

1989-2010: 93.4%
(1989-2010: 94.6%)

The standard deviation in attendance is 1,178, which means that the average attendance during the 2003-2004 season was 3.34 standard deviations lower than the mean. Any number that is greater than three standard deviations higher or lower than the mean of a set of numbers is known as an outlier, and must be expunged from the data. The periodic percentages in parentheses above reflect the data minus the outlier.

I'll bet you attendance at Penguins games has been steadier than it has at hockey games in other similarly-sized metropolitan areas.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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I lived near Pittsburgh from 1995-1998 and I can tell you that it was quite easy getting tickets to games. They were selling them for $5 a pop. I always went to the Ranger-Penguin games and there were tons of Ranger fans there.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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They did go bankrupt twice though.

Fool me once.......
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:13 PM
 
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I lived near Pittsburgh from 1995-1998 and I can tell you that it was quite easy getting tickets to games. They were selling them for $5 a pop. I always went to the Ranger-Penguin games and there were tons of Ranger fans there.
Yeah, it won't be hard to get tickets until you're averaging 100.0%+ of the arena's capacity.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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how do you feel about the Pens and their antics now G? Honest question.

I actually went to the Pens' messageboard and it was eye-opening.

EDIT>> oh I see you already talked about it: http://www.city-data.com/forum/23878078-post50.html

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Old 04-17-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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how do you feel about the Pens and their antics now G? Honest question.
Disgusted by the behavior of the team. Of course, I never implied anywhere in this topic that the players descended from Heaven to do the work of God. Besides, their behavior doesn't change any of the other facts that I've illustrated in this topic.


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I actually went to the Pens' messageboard and it was eye-opening.
'Splain.

By the way, if that was you who sent me a sophomoric anonymous message, then thanks for the reputation points.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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A couple thoughts here, from someone who lived in western PA from September 1997 to December 1999:

1) As was noted in the original post, the Penguins' bankruptcy a few years back primarily was caused by Howard Baldwin and him spending money like he was in a big market in a new arena rather than a medium market in an old arena. Of course, if it wasn't for Baldwin's poor financial management, it is pretty unlikely Mario Lemieux would have ever had part ownership of the team. (Lemieux was given an ownership stake as a means to meet the obligations of his contract.)

2) Having said the above, I've said for many years that the Penguins only draw really well when they have a winning team AND that team has some big-name superstars. When the Penguins have a winning team that lacks superstars, as was the case in the late 1990s and early 2000s, they don't draw particularly well. (They also don't draw well when they have a poor team, but that's more understandable.) I personally think Pittsburgh is an overrated hockey market. It isn't a bad market by any means, but it isn't a great market either.
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