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Old 04-28-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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I'd like to see another team in the Pacific time zone or Mountain time zone. The travel for the Western teams is brutal. There are Western Conference teams in the Eastern time zone for crying out loud .

So... given that, my list would be:

Portland
Seattle
Salt Lake City?


Even though they're pretty big cities, I don't see the NHL in:

Las Vegas
Sacramento
San Diego

Winnipeg is in the Central time zone... that might be close enough.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:34 AM
 
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Firstly, . . . a 2nd team for the Toronto area (includes Hamilton) is needed. I was APPALLED by that crook Bettman blocking Balsillie (Blackberry CEO) from doing so.
(I mean COME ON, . . . we have 2 teams in LA metro and 3 teams in NY metro)
I think Winnipeg deserves their team back.
and as much as I hate to say it, . . . Houston might be a large enough market to support a team.
and I have heard folks tossing around Seattle.
however, . . . I have said it before in these posts, . . . .
for any positive change to occur, they will first have to impeach / impale / arrest / imprison and/or execute that mischief making CRIMINAL Bettman !
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Question for the folks who are pro Winnipeg, looks like it's 50/50 the Yotes, will be back there as soon as next year: can the MTS Centre be expanded? I didn't think it could. With that in mind, the NHL is going to have to explain itself by denying to other towns that have more capacity than MTS Centre (MTS centre only seats just over 15k). Even if they did move, the only 2 ways I could see that working is if fans there paid 70 bucks for the worst seats (which may very well happen to try to make up for Phoenix losses and since the building is so small, look at how much it is to see a baseball game in Boston, same reason) and if you had 80% of the games on the weekend. Winipeg itself is not exactly an area with folks with a lot of money in it, unlike Edmonton or Calgary. The town would really have to rely on fans from a less than days drive distance from Winnipeg, since Winnipeg itself is just too small and the area around it is not that much bigger population wise.
Quebec City, though? That might work, they do have a new building being built and a lot more people (like people from Montreal) in the region than Winnipeg.
Also, the Canadian dollar is fine right now, but what's going to happen if it goes to 80cents vs the US Buck and Winnipeg is stuck in an arena that can only seat 15000 people?
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Never! They couldn't muster up 5000 season ticket holders when the Houston Aeros (WHA) were playing back in 1978.

In order for the team to be added into the NHL, the commissioner has to see that there is an actual market within that city. This means potential ticket sales.

If, I were the commissioner, I would want to see how many tickets are sold with the current Houston Aeros team.

But, it would be nice to see a team there.

Head Coach
Like someone else said to this poster already: Can't factor in attendance for minor league hockey, as a BIG factor (maybe a little bit, that's it) for NHL potential. If that's a big criteria, Hamilton, would not even smell an NHL team (2k to 3k for AHL playoff games).
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:03 PM
 
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I've read about half the thread. Let me throw some new cities out there to be rejected.

1. Boise, ID - It's decent sized and growing. Plus it should be far enough away in miles and travel time to be a lot less likely than Seatlle or Portland to get a Vancouver veto.

2. Ft. Worth, TX - Dallas is a good hockey market you say? Then why not give them a cross town rival for the second Texas team? There's plenty of people down there to support it if it really is a good hockey market.

3. Anchorage, AK - Okay its a long ways from anywhere, and I guess there's a good argument that it isn't Pacific Northwest since it is so far away from the heartland of the old Oregon Country. However, the city itself is decent sized. Maybe you get merchandise sales across Alaska and in Yukon. Again it should be far enough away for Vancouver to be cool with it.

4. With Detroit collapsing why doesn't the NHL kick it while its down? Move the Red Wings to Windsor. Windsor Red Wings sounds a little better than Detroit Red Wings to me. You don't really move the team outside Detroit in any serious manner provided we pretend that international border isn't there. Plus the NHL can say it has given Canada another team, and if things get really bad (oviously I mean compared to now since they're already really bad) in Detroit the NHL will make the NFL, NBA, and MLB look silly by sticking around for so long.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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Want the NHL to stop becoming irrelevant? Here's how to fix it:

Pick up teams here:
1-Pheonix
2-NY Islanders
3-Florida
4-Atlanta

Drop Teams Here:
1-Winnepeg
2-Hamilton
3-Quebec City
4-Milwaukee
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Looks like it might be Phoenix -> Winnipeg, we'll know by Tuesday.

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Question for the folks who are pro Winnipeg, looks like it's 50/50 the Yotes, will be back there as soon as next year: can the MTS Centre be expanded? I didn't think it could. With that in mind, the NHL is going to have to explain itself by denying to other towns that have more capacity than MTS Centre (MTS centre only seats just over 15k).
Yes, the current arena is relatively new. And when they lost the Jets initially, it was because the couldn't fork up the money for a new arena. They do have space for seat and private box expansion anyways.

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Winipeg itself is not exactly an area with folks with a lot of money in it, unlike Edmonton or Calgary. The town would really have to rely on fans from a less than days drive distance from Winnipeg, since Winnipeg itself is just too small and the area around it is not that much bigger population wise.
Alberta's Population: 3,711,845 (Supports 2 NHL teams with sellout crowds every night) 3,711,845/2 = 1,855,922
Manitoba's Population: 1,228,984

Yes there is a 600k difference but it gives you an idea how much people it really takes to support a team. Ottawa has a metro population of about 1,130,000 which covers about the same area as Winnipeg's CSA, so it's all relevant to where the population's centered at.

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Old 05-09-2010, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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Want the NHL to stop becoming irrelevant? Here's how to fix it:

Drop Teams Here:
1-Winnepeg
2-Hamilton
3-Quebec City
4-Milwaukee
Well, before you go about fixing it. Please take this into account....

The reason why there are more NHL teams here in the USA then in Canada is because players and owners don't want to pay those taxes! When 50% of your salary goes to pay your taxes...what's left!
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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^Well with the way Obama's bringing the country, we won't have to deal with that descrepency anymore But's let's not bring this thread that direction.

I really, really hope Winnipeg gets the team. That would be amazing for the NHL. Hell I'd probably drive up to see three of four games next year if they did so. Does anybody got any good links that show how likely this actually is?
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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^Well with the way Obama's bringing the country, we won't have to deal with that descrepency anymore But's let's not bring this thread that direction.

I really, really hope Winnipeg gets the team. That would be amazing for the NHL. Hell I'd probably drive up to see three of four games next year if they did so. Does anybody got any good links that show how likely this actually is?
Well if you can build up the patience to wait two days then you'll know. They make the decision on Tuesday.
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