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Old 05-17-2010, 10:36 PM
 
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And the team has gone bankrupt and needs the city to subsidize them. Hockey in AZ and other southern states is a failed experiment. The league popularity and relevancy has done nothing but shrink since Quebec, Hartford, and Winnipeg were moved. Complain all you want about them not being able to draw and them needing to move, atleast people actually cared about the NHL. I would much rather have smaller markets with a loyal fanbase than large markets where people only tune in when the team has multiple winning seasons going deep in the playoffs. There is no way they should keep a team when Milwaukee is going without one.
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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I would much rather have smaller markets with a loyal fanbase than large markets where people only tune in when the team has multiple winning seasons going deep in the playoffs.
You mean you want to dump markets like Chicago, Boston and St. Louis?

I also don't think Milwaukee would be a bonanza by any means

Once again, there are maybe 4 cities that would support a team in any capacity that is in a streak of 20+ years of not winning a playoff series ...... this is the 1st year since they opened their new building that they made the playoffs (in the past they finished in the basement of the pacific every year except one where they finished 2nd to last in the division)

There are enough options for entertainment, especially in the winter, that people aren't going to spend money to consistently watch a last place product

I still maintain the market hasn't failed - the league and ownership have as there has really been no stewardship and no focus from ownership ......... the last guy could care less about the team, he liked losses as it helped balance out other businesses that he owned (which was where his focus has always been)

Have the NHL and a new owner work out a lease that halfway resembles a "typical" NHL lease and get this team in the playoffs 70% of the time and I guarantee this market will make money and the game will grow in time

however, that has never happened here

There are also markets that are in worse condition than phoenix as far as facilities, profitability and attendance even though they aren't located in a desert

financial problems are nothing new to the NHL though - the lockout helped the financial structure, but hurt the league ...... the TV deal is more revenue than they could of gotten elsewhere, but doesn't really reach the fans and inhibits growth .... it also wasn't that long ago that there needed to be an aid package for canadian teams to keep them from going broke

however, don't confuse mis-management for a lack of substance
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I see your points, however, it shouldn't be about attracting bandwagon fans who would only support the team if they're winning. Winnipeg has die-hard hockey fans, they would sell the place out even for a perennial loser.
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