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Old 03-20-2017, 02:05 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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Hello, we currently have a fiberglass front door (6 panel) that is framed with two sidelights and a transom above. The door itself is protected by a glass storm door. The house is 16 years old, and when these were installed they were likely high-end. We're the second owners and don't like the door and would like to change it out for something nicer. But, we do not want a pre-hung door because we don't want to replace the sidelights or the glass transom above. We'd like a two-panel arched wooden door that would be painted black (facing the street) and bright white (interior) to match the surrounding trim work.


I would normally not be inclined to go with a wood door in this location, but given the heavy-duty glass storm door protecting it, I feel much better about it. Plus, I like the idea of wood because I can plane it down to fit perfectly. I am capable of routing in the hinge mounts and hardware.


We don't want to spend a ton on the door itself. It can be unfinished as I will need to paint it myself anyway with the same black and white paints to match the interior trim and outside shutters and flower boxes.


Does anyone have any recommendations on a good place where I can look to order the door online and have it delivered to me? I tried home depot, and they have a couple but they're "knotty" wood, meant to be stained to look their best.


thanks!
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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I went through the process of looking for a nicer stain-grade wood door and everywhere I could find online wanted $2k (odd sized opening). Walked into my local hardware store and they were able to get me a very nice douglas fir door for $800 delivered/after tax.

So, if you haven't bothered to check with the smaller/locally owned hardware/lumber stores it's worth your time.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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Thanks Brian, I think I'm on that exact same path myself. I keep seeing the same as you mentioned, thousands of dollars for a door online..
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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Even if it's veneered with a staining grade wood, it doesn't mean you can't paint it. It's generally going to be a veneer if you buy at Home Despot.


Why don't you visit a true lumberyard, which can probably order you something of reasonable cost.


No need for routers, just use a sharp chisel. While you might cut your finger with a chisel, you can't cut your finger off with a chisel. Chiseling out for three hinges and a couple locks isn't exactly precision work.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Pella-

Pella 2 Panel Arch Entry Door Solid Panel | Pella

...and yes, you can get just the slab. It comes in either f/glass or steel. I prefer the steel because it has a foam core (better insulation); never been a fan of the f/glass doors- they take almost as much maintenance as and actual wood door.

The biggest complaints I always got with actual wood panel doors is shrinkage and splitting- and storm doors do nothing to keep that from happening- if anything, it made it worse!
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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Try an architectural salvage place. They have some great doors that can refinished.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: D.C.
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Pella-

Pella 2 Panel Arch Entry Door Solid Panel | Pella

...and yes, you can get just the slab. It comes in either f/glass or steel. I prefer the steel because it has a foam core (better insulation); never been a fan of the f/glass doors- they take almost as much maintenance as and actual wood door.

The biggest complaints I always got with actual wood panel doors is shrinkage and splitting- and storm doors do nothing to keep that from happening- if anything, it made it worse!

Thanks amigo, I agree on the steel doors. We're in need of replacing our garage entry door that is steel with a new one. Old one is dented up so badly there is no way of saving it.


We had our rear patio doors (sliders, Anderson) replaced with French doors last year. Ended up with a composite structure that is paintable, and really like it. But the door in question for this post is our front, and it's a key piece to the overall feel of the interior space. We have an open foyer and the front door is seen from upstairs and down, so really want something that is appealing for the interior. The storm door is a heavy duty (probably Pella) unit. It catches the wind-driven rain and snow from hitting the actual door. I figure if I can get a decent wooden door for under $1,000 and get 5 years out of it before problems, that'll be ok with us.


Thanks on the advice of heading to the local lumber yard. Heading there on Saturday to take a look. If prices are decent, might be the spot where we also start replacing these hollow-core interior doors with wood doors as well.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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5 years life on a wooden front door?

My house, built 1939, has its original (wood, obviously) front door. 78 years on the same door and no problems. If you don't get similar results, something is very seriously wrong.
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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5 years life on a wooden front door?

My house, built 1939, has its original (wood, obviously) front door. 78 years on the same door and no problems. If you don't get similar results, something is very seriously wrong.




Not true. My sister has a wooden door on her home circa 1929. The door is fabulous. A few irregularities here and there but all in all, still close to perfection and with weight. I bought a home a mile from her in 1997 and replaced the door that was peeled and could not be saved, with an all wood paneled and 6 lites of glass new door that cost a bundle. When I sold my home in 2013 that door, while properly maintained did not look as good as hers did. Mind you we had the same southern exposure. The door of old, like many things are not made like they used to be.

OP, another consideration is the exposure. While a storm door offers protection, it also bakes the door if you have direct sunlight on it all day.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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The door of old, like many things are not made like they used to be.
It's also not made with the wood of old. true old growth hardwood, properly dried and joined, makes a big difference in the life of the door.
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