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Old 04-14-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Granite - comes in many grades with much variation in price.
Quartz - one grade via licensed process from Macchine e Impianti per Lavorazione Marmo, Granito e Pietra Composita, centri di lavoro a alta velocità
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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If you want to go for a pricey option, why not wood? Maple butcher block will outlast you and the house, and when it gets stained and scarred it's just patina. Plus it's so far out of fashion that you will be forever immune to the risk of trends changing.
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Old 04-14-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I love my black granite. It is not 'busy'.
That is really beautiful.

We went with black leathered granite for our island top - here's the rough version of black granite. Our main counter tops are soapstone - LOVE it.
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Quartz vs Granite Countertop Pricing?-granite-counter-top-island-120-x  
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:30 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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The main disadvantage of granite is also it's advantage - every slab is unique. It all depends on what you are looking for AND your ability to hand-pick slabs so that you know exactly what you are getting and how the slabs will be cut to fit. If you are looking at a granite* sample that has a lot of movement and veining in it, you may or may not get that if your builder (or actually your builder's subcontractor) is the one who picks the slabs.

Granite has come down in price because the worldwide supply has increased, but the flip side of that is that the quality is sometimes not what it was, particularly on the cheap "builder big box" stores and builder-grade supply houses. Check the slab for large pits and cracks near the veining. I have seen some dodgy stuff.

The main advantage of quartz is that it is fairly uniform (because it is manufactured to be) and durable and the color match between slabs is *fairly* reliable.

And if someone is going to talk cartels and the like as a reason to pick granite over quartz - where, exactly, did that granite come from? China? Brazil? India? Do you want to know what the working conditions in those quarries are like? Google "child labor in granite quarries." Most soapstones are from Canada, the US, Finland and I think Brazil.

My redo of this kitchen (last redone by the previous owners about 7 years ago with the above-mentioned problematic "builder-grade" granite) will likely be with a lightish, low-movement quartz - it is a small kitchen on the north side of the house and it can use all the "light" it can get.



* and I have to say it drives the geologist in me nuts to see what some people call "granite," in petrographic terms a granite is a intrusive volcanic rock formed under certain conditions with a set percentage of SiO2 plus other minerals. If it is black, it is not a granite, it's at least a gabbro or even an extrusive volcanic rock, like a basalt.

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Old 04-15-2017, 12:52 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I don't know if "in style" and "trendy" are two different things, but I do see granite falling out of favor eventually. Which would mean eventually it will look dated, as all the newer homes or renovations use quartz or marble or soapstone or whatever the "next big thing" is.

I say this because I haven't seen anything stay in style forever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 04-15-2017, 05:08 PM
 
Location: STL area
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They upcharge for the quartz because the standard granite is cheap. If you wanted a more unique granite, you'd be upcharged for that too. The cheaper builder grade granites are not on trend. They look something like this

https://www.uscgranite.com/galleries/venetian-gold/


We have granite, quartz, and quartzite in different areas of our house and I love them all where we chose to put them. Quartz is too manufactured looking for my kitchen taste. I wanted marble but not the upkeep and patina. We ended up with white macubus quartzite and I love it.

https://www.uscgranite.com/products/white-macubas/
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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The main disadvantage of granite is also it's advantage - every slab is unique. It all depends on what you are looking for AND your ability to hand-pick slabs so that you know exactly what you are getting and how the slabs will be cut to fit. If you are looking at a granite* sample that has a lot of movement and veining in it, you may or may not get that if your builder (or actually your builder's subcontractor) is the one who picks the slabs.

Granite has come down in price because the worldwide supply has increased, but the flip side of that is that the quality is sometimes not what it was, particularly on the cheap "builder big box" stores and builder-grade supply houses. Check the slab for large pits and cracks near the veining. I have seen some dodgy stuff.

The main advantage of quartz is that it is fairly uniform (because it is manufactured to be) and durable and the color match between slabs is *fairly* reliable.

And if someone is going to talk cartels and the like as a reason to pick granite over quartz - where, exactly, did that granite come from? China? Brazil? India? Do you want to know what the working conditions in those quarries are like? Google "child labor in granite quarries." Most soapstones are from Canada, the US, Finland and I think Brazil.

My redo of this kitchen (last redone by the previous owners about 7 years ago with the above-mentioned problematic "builder-grade" granite) will likely be with a lightish, low-movement quartz - it is a small kitchen on the north side of the house and it can use all the "light" it can get.



* and I have to say it drives the geologist in me nuts to see what some people call "granite," in petrographic terms a granite is a intrusive volcanic rock formed under certain conditions with a set percentage of SiO2 plus other minerals. If it is black, it is not a granite, it's at least a gabbro or even an extrusive volcanic rock, like a basalt.
I've always wondered what makes a granite "builder grade"? Is it lack of veining/movement? Or like you said, the presence of pits and defects? I really don't like a lot of movement at all. I guess quartz would have been my choice but I like the durability and look of black/gray granite. Natural stones, even uniform like black, have flecks of minerals etc. that make them interesting. My counter has gray and brown shimmering in a backdrop of black. I didn't find that with a slab of black quartz.

Like quartz there's a wide range of prices with granite. you tend to pay more for the less uniform granites, so a person's gotta compare apples to apples. I guess granite is "affordable" because like you said, there's more sources, including China (which I am suspect of). I say "affordable" in quotes because $40/ft is still a wad of cash to put out for a countertop.

And lol, I'm no geologist, but my black granite (not absolute black) is probably feldspar with other minerals. it is classified as an "igneous rock" even if it may not be true granite. it's just easier I guess to say "black granite" and probably sexier. "black feldspar" doesn't have the same effect
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I don't know if "in style" and "trendy" are two different things, but I do see granite falling out of favor eventually. Which would mean eventually it will look dated, as all the newer homes or renovations use quartz or marble or soapstone or whatever the "next big thing" is.

I say this because I haven't seen anything stay in style forever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The new construction I've seen use both quartz and granite, depending on the look they're trying to pull off. I really don't think my counter will ever look dated. it has a classic, basic look.

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They upcharge for the quartz because the standard granite is cheap. If you wanted a more unique granite, you'd be upcharged for that too. The cheaper builder grade granites are not on trend. They look something like this

https://www.uscgranite.com/galleries/venetian-gold/


We have granite, quartz, and quartzite in different areas of our house and I love them all where we chose to put them. Quartz is too manufactured looking for my kitchen taste. I wanted marble but not the upkeep and patina. We ended up with white macubus quartzite and I love it.

https://www.uscgranite.com/products/white-macubas/
See, I don't see anything wrong with the "builder grade" granite. It may not be trendy anymore, but it still has its place.
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: NC
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I'm a little puzzled by all the votes for granite due to veining and natural features. While true, quartz is significantly more durable (crack and chip resistant) than granite. But our new granite chipped within a year. That's the offsetting advantage to me. YMMV
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Quartz is more expensive than lower grade granite. Quartz is also harder, more durable, non-porous, non maintenance and stain resistant. It is less expensive than the exotic granite. I have had quartz in past two homes and love it.
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