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Old 10-02-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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^This. And it's so predictable that any time a Japanese recall gets posted, the first (and most) posts will be about how all manufacturers have recalls so it's not a big deal. So why is it a big deal if a domestic manufacturer has a recall and not a big deal if an import manufacturer has a recall? It's a double standard here and on most automotive forums.
I think it's mainly because a lot of people have developed the perception that...

Japanese = reliable

American = unreliable

When they hear about a Japanese recall it runs against their perception and they look for the excuse as to why it happened. When they hear about an American recall it reinforces their perception and justifies why they think the way they do. Even though their perception often has little grounding in reality. Hence, why most of them reference the American car they bought used in 1985 and developed a bad starter at 89k miles as their justification for American cars being "unreliable".

To an extent it's not even really about 'reliability', it's more like this...

Smart people buy Japanese cars.

Dumb people buy American cars.

Ergo, someone who buys a Japanese car looks to justify that purchase and their own inflated ego of it being the "best" choice by pointing out anytime American cars have issues. Conversely whenever a Japanese car has an issue they deflect and explain because it questions their belief that they made the "best" choice superior to others. Basically, I'm smarter then you and my choice of automobile is reflective of that.

What I just typed above is not a universal statement and doesn't apply to everyone, just the type of people that run through automotive forums screaming...American cars are crap, buy Japanese because it's the "smart" choice. It's no different from most other automotive topics where everyone is arguing about which performance car is faster or better...it's just that this particular argument tends to be limited to the "Consumer Reports" crowd.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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I don't know about other members but I don't care if the recall is for domestics or not. Unless the cars are exploding at random and severing the heads off babies then I chalk it up to part of owning a complicated machine. I don't mind dropping the car off at the dealer for infrequent recall service.
That's because your normal, sensible, logical and actually know about cars. You know the kind of people that Merc and I are referencing; I doubt any of them will even post in this thread, unless it's to say "GM/Ford/Chrysler sucks...I'll take a flaming Honda anyday over the garbage Detroit builds."
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:24 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Since we all love to post about any time a domestic brand issues a recall...

With Addition of 573,000 Accords, Total Number of Hondas Recalled for Fire Hazard Reaches 1.1 Million - NYTimes.com


It can catch on fire....

This just isn't possible...it's Honda...they are the best...this must be a government conspiracy to discredit Japanese car makers and prop up Government Motors...
you must have found that article on the onion!
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Northern MN
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The funny thing is the japenise vehicles are no better and no worse.
80, toyota pick up's 4x4, 22R. output bearing on transfer case to small the next year it had a bigger one.
Head gasket, you had to let them idel after getting them hot from running down the highway. Aluminum head cooled off to quickly.

Then the Toyota frame recall and buy back of how many trucks?

then the Toyota 3.0 you can't keep a head gaskets on one, recalled.
fixed, blew yet again. It leaks oil like the exon Valdez.
It was to the dealer 2 times for a fix

I can list domestic vehicles Ive owned too.
Pontiac, engine recall, I got a free one.
dodge, 08 cummins, engine bay fire. sound deadening materiel coming in contact with exhaust manifold.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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I agree completely with you NJGoat...

It is funny to see how the thread goes, when it can be identicle. I alost want to post a japanese car in 100% the exact wording and format as American thread and see how it goes.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Power steering fluid? It'll usually just burns off but it can ignite in certain circumstances. Kudos, I guess, to Honda for the recall. They're trying to save their reputation.

I do remember when the engine of my brother's Ford Taurus burst into flames.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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Since we all love to post about any time a domestic brand issues a recall...

With Addition of 573,000 Accords, Total Number of Hondas Recalled for Fire Hazard Reaches 1.1 Million - NYTimes.com



It can catch on fire....

This just isn't possible...it's Honda...they are the best...this must be a government conspiracy to discredit Japanese car makers and prop up Government Motors...
GM just recalled about the same number because of possible engine fires after already havig recalled severqal thousand before. Alot of recalls it seems nw days as they are being cautious now.It took two years in the 90's for Frod to recall the car fires because of cruise control switches and never did o rearend collison fires except police cars.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Butler County Ohio
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Originally Posted by NJGOAT View Post
I think it's mainly because a lot of people have developed the perception that...

Japanese = reliable

American = unreliable

When they hear about a Japanese recall it runs against their perception and they look for the excuse as to why it happened. When they hear about an American recall it reinforces their perception and justifies why they think the way they do. Even though their perception often has little grounding in reality. Hence, why most of them reference the American car they bought used in 1985 and developed a bad starter at 89k miles as their justification for American cars being "unreliable".

To an extent it's not even really about 'reliability', it's more like this...

Smart people buy Japanese cars.

Dumb people buy American cars.

Ergo, someone who buys a Japanese car looks to justify that purchase and their own inflated ego of it being the "best" choice by pointing out anytime American cars have issues. Conversely whenever a Japanese car has an issue they deflect and explain because it questions their belief that they made the "best" choice superior to others. Basically, I'm smarter then you and my choice of automobile is reflective of that.

What I just typed above is not a universal statement and doesn't apply to everyone, just the type of people that run through automotive forums screaming...American cars are crap, buy Japanese because it's the "smart" choice. It's no different from most other automotive topics where everyone is arguing about which performance car is faster or better...it's just that this particular argument tends to be limited to the "Consumer Reports" crowd.
WOW, you said it! I agree...
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