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Old 09-07-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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Default Lights and outlets out, no tripped circuit breakers

Last night the light when out in my bathroom. I thought that a circuit breaker tripped. When I looked at the panel, none of the breakers were tripped. Not only were the lights out, but some adjacent outlets in the next room. I've already checked the GFIs...Since the power is off, the GFIs won't test or reset.

Any ideas?
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: The Triad (nc)
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Last night the light when out in my bathroom.
Not only were the lights out, but some adjacent outlets in the next room.
The lights and the receptacles really shouldn't be on the same circuit.
In this case, if it was ONLY the one bathroom light that went out...
you can reasonably assume that the problem is based in that R circuit alone.

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I thought that a circuit breaker tripped.
When I looked at the panel, none of the breakers were tripped.
Since the power is off, the GFIs won't test or reset.
And if none of the breakers are tripped...
how do you KNOW that the power is off? hmmm?

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I've already checked the GFIs...
You need someone who knows what they're looking at to check again.

Most likely? You have "lost a neutral" somewhere.
Maybe right at the GFI... maybe not.
Or the GFI device itself is faulty.

hth
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:44 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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The lights and the receptacles really shouldn't be on the same circuit.
In this case, if it was ONLY the one bathroom light that went out...
you can reasonably assume that the problem is based in that R circuit alone.

And if none of the breakers are tripped...
how do you KNOW that the power is off? hmmm?

You need someone who knows what they're looking at to check again.

Most likely? You have "lost a neutral" somewhere.
Maybe right at the GFI... maybe not.
Or the GFI device itself is faulty.

hth
Or there is one more gfi he has not found.
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: The Triad (nc)
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Or there is one more gfi he has not found.
Maybe...
but despite all the detail he included he didn't mention other GFI locations not working.
If such exists... the problem could be at that device too.
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Maybe...
but despite all the detail he included he didn't mention other GFI locations not working.
If such exists... the problem could be at that device too.
I have trouble shot 20 or 30 of those over the years. The only place I have seen it be anything other than a gfi was a house I owned which had defective outlets installed that all were failing as the years went by. Finally replaced them all.

Other than that house it is always a gfi...particular when a set of things all go off together.

I hesitate to get too specific about how to trouble shoot this sort of thing for fear of shocking someone. They can be a pain to do if you do it without professional equipment.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:01 PM
 
Location: sowf jawja
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And if none of the breakers are tripped...
how do you KNOW that the power is off? hmmm?


they're obviously not an electrician and simply giving a homeowner's perspective on what's happening.


if the lights are out and the power is not working, we can assume somewhere the power is off one way or another.




most likely a loose wire somewhere. find the last recep on the circuit that is still working; its most likely a bad connection there or the next recep in line. if none of that makes sense, call an electrician.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:48 AM
 
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I have several cases where the breaker tripped and it was not readily apparent.

Just last week I got an urgent call from a tenant saying she lost power to part of the house and the refrigerator and living room outlets did not work...

She also said she checked the circuit breakers... guess what... it was a circuit breaker that had tripped.

I noticed a vacuum in the living room and she said it happened just as she started to vacuum... I unplugged the vacuum and all was good. Plugged it in and the breaker tripped... bad cord.

Also have had two cases of bad back-wired outlets...

As to breakers... sometimes you just have to go through and turn each one off and then on to notice a problem.

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Old 09-08-2011, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Kennewick, WA
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Or there is one more gfi he has not found.
we had this happen to us. we checked all the surrounding areas, but nothing. But, then my hubs went to find something in the garage and saw another gfi and figured what they heck. He reset it and it fixed everything. We would have never thought that our inside lights were connected to one wall in the garage. So, keep looking. You never know!
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:36 AM
 
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Or there is one more gfi he has not found.
I agree. This happens to us on occasion. Our main floor bathroom is on the same circuit as our master bathroom. Every once in a while the outlets in the master don't work and it is always from the main floor bath's GFI being tripped.


I would still turn off the breaker and turn it back on but my guess is a tripped GIF somewhere inside or outside your house.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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I have three outlets in my garage that just stopped working. I reset the fourth one which was a gfi in the garage and still nothing. I then went through the house and checked my other three gfis and nothing. I went to my panel to see if anything was tripped all was ok
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