Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > House
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-18-2023, 09:02 AM
 
2,706 posts, read 2,207,814 times
Reputation: 2809

Advertisements

I have a WEN GN625i (6250 watt) generator with two outputs. One is a L14-30 twist lock which is 240v and the other one is a TT-30 which is 120v. The electricians installed an interlock and a 30amp breaker. Each time I plug in the L14-30 (240v) into the house and then the generator the overload feature shuts the generator down. This occurs even when all of the breakers in the house are off. Before I test anything I shut all of the house breakers on. The electrician checked the end of my cord and it shows 240v.

The electricians disconnected one leg of the 30amp breaker and we tried the 120v TT-30 output. This worked, but will only power half of the outlets I want (none of these are 240v).

Before I start trouble shooting my generator are there any other options I can check? The electricians says it is the generator overload not working correctly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-18-2023, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
17,472 posts, read 66,002,677 times
Reputation: 23621
Quote:
Originally Posted by reubenray View Post
The electricians says it is the generator overload not working correctly.


Maybe; maybe not.

When the actual wiring was done/setup, did you have "HIM" setup/hookup the gen to make sure everything was working properly? That would seem like a no-brainer to me.

Like any licensed mechanical person- they're always fast on the trigger to point the finger at something/someone else!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2023, 03:15 PM
 
2,706 posts, read 2,207,814 times
Reputation: 2809
Quote:
Originally Posted by K'ledgeBldr View Post
Maybe; maybe not.

When the actual wiring was done/setup, did you have "HIM" setup/hookup the gen to make sure everything was working properly? That would seem like a no-brainer to me.

Like any licensed mechanical person- they're always fast on the trigger to point the finger at something/someone else!
The electrician was there with me testing everything. They took everything apart to check their connections. They even changed out the 30 amp breaker to make sure it was OK.
When the 240v connection would not work I ordered an adapter to connect my cable to the 120v connection. When it came in the electricians came back to see if it would work and it did. But I would really need to get 240v working.

Last edited by reubenray; 07-18-2023 at 03:31 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2023, 04:00 PM
 
23,589 posts, read 70,358,767 times
Reputation: 49216
The electrician is correct.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2023, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
17,210 posts, read 57,041,396 times
Reputation: 18564
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry chickpea View Post
The electrician is correct.

When he said the generator overload is not working correctly, right? Or another quote?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2023, 04:26 PM
 
516 posts, read 1,075,204 times
Reputation: 867
The "overload" in the generator is also a GFCI, it is sensing the down stream bonding of the ground and neutral that all services must have and is working correctly by tripping. See if your generator manual has anything about unbonding the generator from the frame. Most larger generators will have a jumper to remove to accomplish this, only down side to unbonding the generator is that you should not use the 120 volt outlets as theu will also be unbonded
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2023, 05:47 PM
 
2,706 posts, read 2,207,814 times
Reputation: 2809
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevink1955 View Post
The "overload" in the generator is also a GFCI, it is sensing the down stream bonding of the ground and neutral that all services must have and is working correctly by tripping. See if your generator manual has anything about unbonding the generator from the frame. Most larger generators will have a jumper to remove to accomplish this, only down side to unbonding the generator is that you should not use the 120 volt outlets as theu will also be unbonded
Would grounding the generator do this? There is a screw for this on the generator.

The manual has nothing about unbonding the generator. If it makes any difference my generator is an open frame generator.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2023, 07:51 PM
 
516 posts, read 1,075,204 times
Reputation: 867
Sorry, grounding the generator will not help.

Somewhere in the generator outlet box there is a jumper connecting the netural to the frame, this is a good thing for the 120 volt outlets but a bad thing for the 240 volt outlet being connected to a system that is already bonded.

the GFCI sees the house bond as a neutral to ground short and trips like it should
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-19-2023, 05:04 AM
 
2,706 posts, read 2,207,814 times
Reputation: 2809
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevink1955 View Post
Sorry, grounding the generator will not help.

Somewhere in the generator outlet box there is a jumper connecting the netural to the frame, this is a good thing for the 120 volt outlets but a bad thing for the 240 volt outlet being connected to a system that is already bonded.

the GFCI sees the house bond as a neutral to ground short and trips like it should
Thanks for the info. I found some youtube videos showing what to do to unbond it. I am waiting to hear back from WEN to see if this would void the warranty. This generator is marketed to be 120/240 volt transfer switch ready, but obviously it is not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-21-2023, 03:55 PM
 
Location: TEXAS
3,824 posts, read 1,377,312 times
Reputation: 2016
Also be aware that your generator can only supply 20.8 amps per leg CONTINIOUSLY (5000w total - 2500w/leg) - so don't load an individual leg up beyond that.
the 6250w is SURGE capacity.

Do you have any subpanels (garage/shop/wellpump)? that you need to turn breakers off on too, when testing?

Is the interlock properly requiring you to turn the MAIN breaker OFF before the generator breaker is moved to ON ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > House
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top