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Please listen the only cleaner that worked is the ROG kit it came with 2 full quarts the ROG 3 a calcium reducing high detergent non-acid cleaner. I followed the instructions perfectly and after I use the first cleaner I did use the ROG one cream that's all I can tell you is that I've tried everything else and this was the only thing that brought my talk back to new, like the day it was made
Thank you mr. ROG
Sessa Feldman Stuart fl.