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Old 09-17-2015, 06:41 AM
 
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Current Condition: http://imgur.com/1wgOKJC
Proposed Design: http://imgur.com/h7DetGA

Well first of all the 24" Lid is broken. Basin brand is Jackel (SPF 24x36) .

I am looking to replace the pump (It works but why not while i'm down there) and get a new lid. I'm going to have to caulk the new lid in place as all the bolts are rusted off.


Pump is a Zoeller M267 ~ $300
Some people recommended Tramco 400S



My question is if my proposed design will work. I want to be able to slide the lid off easily to access the pump for maintenance/replacement.



EDIT
I'm reading some sources say to install the check valves horizontally. My proposed design would not work if that is the best way. Called Jackel about the check valves and the gentleman said I can install them either way but I'd still rather install it horizontally.

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Old 09-17-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Well, if "your" design isn't going to work with the check valve horizontally then put it vertically. It's not rocket science- they work either way.
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Old 09-17-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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Basin lip has broken off sections...


Is it code to install these below ground?
It'd be much easier for me to cover this one up and place one on top of it
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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EDIT
I'm reading some sources say to install the check valves horizontally. My proposed design would not work if that is the best way. Called Jackel about the check valves and the gentleman said I can install them either way but I'd still rather install it horizontally.
There is different types of check valves, some need to be installed horizontally.

The real problem I would look for here is if the pump is designed to start with all the water in the pipe above it. That's going to create a lot more pressure the pump has to overcome when the pump starts and it may be designed to backflow into the basin once the pump ends it cycle. It can't do that if there is check valve above it.
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Is it code to install these below ground?
It'd be much easier for me to cover this one up and place one on top of it

S#!T rolls down hill- that's why it's placed the way it is.

If you were to abandon this one and put one on top of it where do you think the S#!T is going to go that goes into it now? If you think that vertical pipe that you marked as waste in your first picture is the only source feeding the sump there wouldnt be a need for the sump! You must have a bath on that same level- that's what's feeding the sump. When you remove the lid you should see an inlet- and it shouldn't be the pipe previously mentioned.
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Old 09-18-2015, 05:26 AM
 
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No I have nothing in the basement floor level. All waste comes from the first and second floors into the basement.


They apparently did it this way because the pipe in street is higher than the basement level of the house.
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Old 09-18-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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No I have nothing in the basement floor level. All waste comes from the first and second floors into the basement.


They apparently did it this way because the pipe in street is higher than the basement level of the house.

You may not have a bath but its definitely roughed for a bath- hence the reason for the sump

According to your notated pic that would not be necessary- the discharge line is barely above the floor. No need for the main wasteline to go into the sump.
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