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Old 09-10-2019, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Flooding!


Water-tight!
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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100% this.

Taiwan's East Coast is hit by a category-5 typhoon almost yearly. Nobody even bats an eye. Utilities are buried, all serious construction (including roof) is steel-reinforced concrete (rebar-reinforced slab pours, not lame-ass cinder-block masonry). I watched them trying to tear down a house from the 1960's, and basically the house broke the excavator that was trying to knock it down. People freak out if the power goes out, even during a super-typhoon. Where I live in the USA, the power goes out if a kitten farts near a transformer.

The problems with concrete construction is, once it's there, it's there forever. So if you want to convert to an open-floorplan living/dining room because you don't like 1950's-style Chinese architecture, you're going to need about thirty kilograms of high explosives to renovate, or put in a cable run for internet, etc.

It's also super labor-intensive and expensive to build. Labor in Taiwan is fast, skilled, hard-working, and dirt-cheap, so they can build cities full of--what are--basically bomb shelters. You're not going to get that in the Bahamas. Or even Florida. At least not without spending 3X the budget of the stick-framed toy houses we all live in.

Also, if the earth moves, you can get some serious cracking and even collapsing of ultra-heavy concrete construction from earthquakes, erosion, sink-holes, or other types of soil liquification. Once that reinforced concrete **** is broken, it can't be fixed. Stick frame rolls with the punches and can float on a slab (or a repair-able foundation), but blows away in high winds.
Just the outside structure is concrete, inside is the standard wood/metal framing and drywall. No reason for the interior walls to be concrete.

Florida has numerous concrete/CBS houses, not cost prohibitive at all.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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The Monolithic Dome house can withstand a lot of force.
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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My post of the day winner:

"the power goes out if a kitten farts near a transformer."

You win a - -- - Happy face!

Print it, cut it out and stick it on your forehead. You deserve it.
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: In a happy place
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How about this as an option for more resistance?

https://sipschool.wordpress.com/2017...icane-proof-2/
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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Yep. The Mexico Beach house is a perfect example of a hurricane house. They built that house to withstand 250 mph winds. Poured concrete walls, Hardie backer board siding and trim, custom impact-resistant windows (and fewer windows than most people want), sealed soffits, metal roof, break-away lower walls, 40 ft poured concrete pilings that go 28 feet into the sand, and on and on.

To do this, you have to be willing to spend the money. The owners said that the cost was 15 to 20% more. Obviously it was well worth the cost.

https://www.popsci.com/hurricane-mic...e-engineering/

Did he get a lower insurance premium for it? His neighbors are all getting new houses with new stuff.
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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People just won't pay up. That is why builders do so well. They put up a cheap crap home, throw some builder granite on the counter and a piece of crown somewhere in the house and call it "custom" and some "look at what I got for cheap" person will buy it.
This. An actuary I know who worked in Catastrophe Modeling and lived in FL joked that when he and his wife were building a new house, he wanted portholes and she wanted floor-to-ceiling windows. And he did encounter resistance from the builder for all the less-visible things that he wanted done to make the house hurricane-resistant. The builder wanted him to spend his $$ on all the showy stuff.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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Of course you can weatherproof a home against just about any weather...........but at a cost, sometimes a BIG cost.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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I don't believe those studies that claim it would only cost a couple thousand more to hurricane proof a house. Couple thousand won't buy much of anything, esp labor. Would love to see what engineering goes into those claims.
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:07 PM
 
Location: S.W. Florida
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I imagine something like a pyramid in overall shape and material on high ground could do it?
An incredibly strongly anchored dome or round structure might withstand the hurricane force winds. How to make it flood proof is another matter.
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