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Old 10-06-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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And yet, a month later, you still have bids that you consider excessive and nothing else.

If you’re so adverse to labor, why not just hire a couple of day laborers for $200 and just oversee the work?

Your whole thread has been a pointless rant, to be honest. It’s pretty obvious that the market rate for professional decking companies exceeds your expectations.
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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Good on you.

I can see a small mark up on the material and charging $85-$100 per guy in labor.

I just today found a carpenter who charges $38 an hour and he said he can do it himself. Letís see how many hours he thinks it will take
You are unreasonable. I work in the plumbing industry and bid jobs by the job. Only hourly for small jobs like faucet replacement. Our billable hour is $155. The plumber is making $45ish, plus the office staff and misc payroll,truck and insurance. We lose money on $155 an hour jobs. We have to make it up on the bigger jobs.
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Nah. Want it done right at a FAIR price. Not overcharging price gouging
Lol. I bought a house four years ago that needs a roof and siding. In my head I was thinking $8k max for the roof and another $12-$15k for siding and wrapping all the wood with vinyl. I have had dozens of estimates and no one has remotely come close to what I thought was fair in my mind. The problem is me, not their prices. Most of the estimates have been between $30-$45k. Sure a few were $65-$70k but they were the giant companies with in house financing and big overhead.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:14 PM
 
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Quote #1. $1,500 labor only

Quote #2. $2,200 labor only

Trex decking is going to cost me $2,500 or a little less


So

$4000-$4,700 instead of $9,000-$15,000



BOOM!!!!!
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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It is pretty common for contractors to make most of their money on materials mark up. often it can exceed 100% of their cost. Of course a lot of that mark up goes into fishing, buying, loading and unloading, storing, insuring, tracking, managing . . . etc.

I hear people regularly saying "I do not want to pay them to go to Home depot to buy stuff. They should bring it with them" (Including me once upon a time in the past). At some point they have to buy that stuff, load it unload it etc. They need to get paid for that time, plus all the other costs and still make some profit, or there is no reason to stay in business.

Sometimes the mark ups are absurd, sometimes they are justified. Just look at your contractor's house, dock, yacht, airplane etc and you will be able to tell if they are overcharging customers. On a more practical vein, you cna look at their work trucks and equipment. If it is brand new and state of the art, you are paying for all that.

Also do they have lots of advertising, really slick 3 color brochures, TV ads and videos? Well you are paying for all that and it is very expensive.
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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It is pretty common for contractors to make most of their money on materials mark up. often it can exceed 100% of their cost. Of course a lot of that mark up goes into fishing, buying, loading and unloading, storing, insuring, tracking, managing . . . etc.

I hear people regularly saying "I do not want to pay them to go to Home depot to buy stuff. They should bring it with them" (Including me once upon a time in the past). At some point they have to buy that stuff, load it unload it etc. They need to get paid for that time, plus all the other costs and still make some profit, or there is no reason to stay in business.

Sometimes the mark ups are absurd, sometimes they are justified. Just look at your contractor's house, dock, yacht, airplane etc and you will be able to tell if they are overcharging customers. On a more practical vein, you cna look at their work trucks and equipment. If it is brand new and state of the art, you are paying for all that.

Also do they have lots of advertising, really slick 3 color brochures, TV ads and videos? Well you are paying for all that and it is very expensive.
I can understand some markup but not double or more. That is gouging and am surprised not illegal


$225 per hour per guy for labor.





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Old 10-09-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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Or zero dollars per hour. Choices, man... choices.
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:55 AM
 
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Or zero dollars per hour. Choices, man... choices.
Sure go ahead and fix anything known to man by yourself oh wise one




Pffffffffffffffft
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:59 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Joni Mitchell song
Who you going to get to do your dirty work when all the slaves are gone —-
When the wall is done the cost of labor will cripple the housing market
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Joni Mitchell song
Who you going to get to do your dirty work when all the slaves are gone ó-
When the wall is done the cost of labor will cripple the housing market
What housing market?
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