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Old 09-17-2009, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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desertsun needs to get out of the sun and go out to some plumbing supply houses. :-)
While cast iron pipe is rarely used in horizontal runs, I have seen it used many times in new construction (high end homes) for the vent pipes, and vertical runs (as texdav said).
I honestly have not seen it in the south west and the north east nor on the east coast. I will only say though I have been in plumbing supply stores, I never walked into where they stock the pipes. Where the hell are they still using cast iron? How does cost effectiveness, time consuming and degree of difficulty does using cast iron rate on the stupid scale?
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Really? Strange that in my last 30 years in new home construction I have never seen cast iron pipe used. Probably because it has not been used since about 1959. It has not even been available to purchase for more then 20 years. Plastic is not noisy.

Nothing wrong with cast iron? You mean it ain't too heavy to work with? Perhaps you should ask a Plumbers opinion on that one. I really dont think he will agree with you at all.

In 1959 you would be talking about bell and spigot cast iron with poured lead joints.It was replaced with "no hub" cast iron.I am a plumber for 30+ years and foolishly used all pvc when i gutted and redid my whole house..The horizontals on pvc are fine.The verticals are noisy.Yes i insulated the pipe and walls.I can hear a toilet flush on the first floor when it comes down the drop to the basement.
Allways use cast iron no hub on the stacks(verticals)and you can use no hub clamps to continue with pvc on all the waste piping that runs horizontally.I am embarrassed with myself for saving $50 in materials and hearing the shower running or toilet flushing for the last 10 tears.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:11 PM
 
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Default Stupid Scale?time to get on scale

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I honestly have not seen it in the south west and the north east nor on the east coast. I will only say though I have been in plumbing supply stores, I never walked into where they stock the pipes. Where the hell are they still using cast iron? How does cost effectiveness, time consuming and degree of difficulty does using cast iron rate on the stupid scale?
Pvc pipe is illegal in 3 stories and above.Main reason is the poisonous fumes given off in a fire.If your above the fire your dead before any fire or smoke that you can see gets there.Any fire departments that have to respond above 3 stories have made it illegal for the safety(ability to live)of the firemen and they also like the ability to carry out victims who have a chance to be alive.Isn't that stoopid?
If one isn't a plumber you would be surprised what behind the counter that you can't see.
In one story houses in the northeast i have seen pvc in the basement with woodstoves.By the time there is a little fire starting and the pvc starts melting and smoldering the occupants are dead before the call goes into the house.So pvc has obvious risks including unnecessary loss of life.I myself installed recessed sprinkler heads in my home.Completely unnecessary according to code.Oh,...and sprinklers can sometimes go off and damage your stuff.But i'm going off topic,...my bad.
Did i mention no hub is quiet?You can even have a stoopid person flush the toilet and not hear it.
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