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Old 11-17-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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Yeah; I'd say your opinion is exaggerated, but you have a right to an opinion. Do you ever plan on visiting Houston??
Dang! My opinion still isn't good enough! LOL!

 
Old 11-17-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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That table is confusing. I always thought that NYC had more than 12 million people in its metro for a while. 20 years is very recent and I didn't know such change was made to these metros.
actually it was 2000, and they change these things all the time. the last major change was in 2000 (implemented in 2003) but they issue smaller changes just about every year, that is why when people say things like not in my lifetime, that may be true for city, but not metro.

why do you think it is so hard getting metro info that goes back more than 10 years? it is because they do the updates for the last census, and the last census only.

be careful of metro rankings older than 2003, the criteria Will not be the same as today's
 
Old 11-17-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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I meant 10 years! There shouldn't be too many modifications to the metro areas' populations, I don't think.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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I meant 10 years! There shouldn't be too many modifications to the metro areas' populations, I don't think.
the old definition needed to be changed. There were grandfathered in metros and metros that were not very representative. The old NY metro consisted mainly of the 5 boroughs. The new one included more of NJ and CT

The old one had Dallas and FW, the new one combined them and Dallas jumped from the 10th largest metro to the 5th.

In the Change Houston barely increase, we got Galveston metro which only added a few more people

Austin and SA grew a bit too from the change
 
Old 11-17-2010, 03:37 PM
 
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After viewing those videos, Houston seems to be in the same league with LA and Chicago, since it feels so big!
Trust me. It's not. I love Houston. But the feel of the city is much more closer to Dallas and Atlanta than it is to LA and Chicago.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 03:40 PM
 
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the old definition needed to be changed. There were grandfathered in metros and metros that were not very representative. The old NY metro consisted mainly of the 5 boroughs. The new one included more of NJ and CT

The old one had Dallas and FW, the new one combined them and Dallas jumped from the 10th largest metro to the 5th.

In the Change Houston barely increase, we got Galveston metro which only added a few more people

Austin and SA grew a bit too from the change
What definition are you exactly talking about?
 
Old 11-17-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Trust me. It's not. I love Houston. But the feel of the city is much more closer to Dallas and Atlanta than it is to LA and Chicago.
Can Houston be in a league of its own since some of you said that it feels bigger than Atlanta and DFW.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 03:51 PM
 
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What definition are you exactly talking about?
metropolitan area definition.
There used to be Primary MSA's and combined MSA's (what we now call a CSA)

the new definition includes more area for some (like New York and DFW) or less less (like Boston, ATL)

The old metros were more like what we call metro divisions now. Dallas and Fort Worth are both Metro divisions in the DFW MSA, but before the change they were MSA's in the combined statistical area/ CMSA.

I list plenty excerpts in the thread

Interesting Changes to Metros after 2000 census. I wonder if they will upend and redo the list again after this one
 
Old 11-17-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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Can Houston be in a league of its own since some of you said that it feels bigger than Atlanta and DFW.
comparisons based on size is tricky.
City wise its population numbers are much much closer to Chicago than Dallas and certainly ATL, but because it is so spread out it feels closer to Dallas than Chicago.

In Terms of metro again the two feels closer to each other than Chicago because of the spread.

Houston does feel bigger than Dallas or ATL, but not Chicago big.

Houston may get there long before Dallas because the Dallas burbs are so darn attractive and Dart is just gonna make being spread out easier.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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I didn't understand your last statement, sorry.
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