Houston ranked 5th in metro population (Dallas, Mission: neighborhood, oil, nurses)
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Just curious, how does Dallas's downtown look bigger? If we were to look at the amount of skyscrapers in the downtown areas, surely Houston would definitely come out on top. On top of that, the office vacancy rate is much lower in downtown Houston compared to Dallas. With the low vacancy rate, Houston has been able to add more buildings in the last twenty years while downtown Dallas hasn't radically changed since the 1980s with the exception of maybe adding more lights to their buildings. As for liveliness, that's debatable. Houston has two sports venues, Discovery Green, and the Theater District while Dallas has the Arts District (which is still developing). If your adding Uptown Dallas, then you can maybe make the case it feels busier. One reason Houston might not seem as busy is because it has an extensive tunnel system which is probably smart to use during the summer months. But other than that, neither Dallas or Houston has anything to write home about when it comes to their downtown nightlife.
If there is one thing I am quite envious of Dallas having a superiority, it is their light rail system. Right now, DART has way more miles compared to Houston METRO. But I think the gap will close in the future. But really, Houston and Dallas are quite similar, with Houston satisfying me with almost everything I need at the moment. I'm not really emotionally invested as others if Houston surpasses the Metroplex or Chicago for that matter in the future. But I think this is good news for Houston to see more people moving here despite an ongoing recession as they must be doing something right.
Maybe it's just the better peripheral that one can get of downtown Dallas while crossing over the Trinity River that makes it look more awesome. There is a lot of little stuff on the outskirts of downtown that are visible because of this. Downtown Houston also has this kind of peripheral stuff, but it isn't readily apparent.
Dallas set the fashion standard in Texas and the Southwest, but not so much anymore. Since the days of "big hair," it has long been known for having some of the most beautiful women in the world. Like I said, in regards to bigness, Dallas seems a lot bigger than Houston in regards to other things besides population.
DART was great, but now it sucks. Now that DART is being allowed to shirk responsibility for hiring people with poor vision, it will no longer have to maintain the product that it has already built. This is how transit systems grow old and fall apart. To save DART and its integrity, in quick succession, the board needs to be fired and then the top manager. After that, the new manager should then be given a short time to fire everyone else who needs to be fired.
DART developed a great system because it was once lean and desperate. Now the agency has become a fat hog.
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You are bragging about Dallas in a forum that doesn't care. Why don't you go to the Dallas forum to do so.
I never go there, because I don't have anything to say, I think it's rather pathetic when people of other cities come into different forums to prove a point.
Yes DART really is better presently though.
I have nothing against Dallas at all, I like the city, not their sports teams, but to prove a point I don't go around putting it down.
And I'm not even going to bother responding to your posts, they are rather trash like at best. And yeah I expect you to respond back to this like most people with an inferiority complex. Say whatever do whatever, I'm done talking to you- so you wont be seeing a response from me. You could bash my post or me and Houston, doesn't make a difference. I expect as much from your kind.
Anyone who says people in Los Angeles have an inferiority complex to those living in San Francisco is beyond hopeless. Same for Houston & Dallas.
You are bragging about Dallas in a forum that doesn't care. Why don't you go to the Dallas forum to do so.
I never go there, because I don't have anything to say, I think it's rather pathetic when people of other cities come into different forums to prove a point.
Yes DART really is better presently though.
I have nothing against Dallas at all, I like the city, not their sports teams, but to prove a point I don't go around putting it down.
And I'm not even going to bother responding to your posts, they are rather trash like at best. And yeah I expect you to respond back to this like most people with an inferiority complex. Say whatever do whatever, I'm done talking to you- so you wont be seeing a response from me. You could bash my post or me and Houston, doesn't make a difference. I expect as much from your kind.
Anyone who says people in Los Angeles have an inferiority complex to those living in San Francisco is beyond hopeless. Same for Houston & Dallas.
I did not put Houston down at all. Are you speaking of someone else? It is strange how people in a city almost twice as large as Dallas would be so sensitive.
While population size is a sensitive thing in Texas, it is life and death, cat and dog, tooth and claw issue in Houston and Dallas - Fort Worth. All it takes is a stalled economy for just a few years in one of them and the other metropolitan area will take off leaving the other one in smoke. Why does the Dallas - Fort Worth area now have 660,000 people more than the Houston area? Well, this really happened right after the mid eighties crash when the Houston economy faltered to the extent that the city actually lost population. While that was happening, the Dallas - Fort Worth area continued adding residents.
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But Houston has always felt inferior to Dallas. I think there is something similar going on between San Francisco and Los Angeles. San Franscico is just far bigger than Los Angeles in matters of sophisticated. Similarly, downtown Dallas just looks bigger than downtown Houston as the streets around the city look busier than they do in Houston. You get kind of a crossroadsy feel to Dallas that just you don't feel in Houston. Could it be the numerous roosters that crow just a quarter miles from its downtown?
Anyway, I don't want to stir anything up in here. I say the first step for the city of Houston curing its inferior complex is peace and quiet.
Shhh . . .
LOL. You do realize that even Houston's medical district is about to pass up downtown Dallas in size? Houston's downtown is already larger in number of buildings of height.
L.A. and SF are much more different from each other than Dallas and Houston. Ask any Californian. In many ways, Houston and Dallas are interchangeable and the differences are harder to find without nit-picking.
As far as inferiority complexes, that's just an overused cop-out. You're the one coming over into the Houston forum to stir the pot, so I wonder who really has the complex.
LOL. You do realize that even Houston's medical district is about to pass up downtown Dallas in size? Houston's downtown is already larger in number of buildings of height.
L.A. and SF are much more different from each other than Dallas and Houston. Ask any Californian. In many ways, Houston and Dallas are interchangeable and the differences are harder to find without nit-picking.
As far as inferiority complexes, that's just an overused cop-out. You're the one coming over into the Houston forum to stir the pot, so I wonder who really has the complex.
Look, I am very impressed with the size of the Texas Medical Center. But that isn't true about its true size. Check it out and you will see the actual space of the Texas Medical Center is "plant size." Actually, I don't know how they measure it at the Texas Medical Center, but you can bet they measure it in such a way that the total incorporates the hospital space.
Now, just consider that there is other space in downtown Dallas other than its office space? There will be three hotels with over 1000 rooms. There is a huge convention center. Lots of condos. That kind of thing.
Or, compare the two this way. How many total hotel rooms are there in downtown Dallas compared to the total hospital beds in the Texas Medical Center?
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Danny, you have the numbers for the nigerians ? Their community is strong in Houston, but how ?
And the mexican numbers are impressive : Mexican-Americans in Houston = 1.5 million soon more than Chicago's mexicans Thankfully I learn Spanish
I will have to wait until they officially release the new 2010 census numbers but in 2000 there were 37,683 people of Nigerian ancestry. And African immigration has vastly increased this decade more than every before. So I can expect to see a far larger number in the new census.
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I did not put Houston down at all. Are you speaking of someone else? It is strange how people in a city almost twice as large as Dallas would be so sensitive.
While population size is a sensitive thing in Texas, it is life and death, cat and dog, tooth and claw issue in Houston and Dallas - Fort Worth. All it takes is a stalled economy for just a few years in one of them and the other metropolitan area will take off leaving the other one in smoke. Why does the Dallas - Fort Worth area now have 660,000 people more than the Houston area? Well, this really happened right after the mid eighties crash when the Houston economy faltered to the extent that the city actually lost population. While that was happening, the Dallas - Fort Worth area continued adding residents.
Whoa my bad. No Houston city limits has never dealt with a population decline but yes it had a stagnant slow growth in the 1980's due to the Oil bust in which DFW passed it up.
Houston city limits only grew 2% that decade compared to 20% the decade before.
I don't have the numbers for office space just yet, I'll look them up but I think by employment numbers TMC is poised to overtake downtown Dallas.
Let's not do this. Dallasites can respond well we don't need to annex all our land to make ourselves look bigger. Then it will be a crapstorm and will turn into another Dallas vs Houston thread and it does not need to be.
I didn't know African immigration to Houston was rapidly growing.
It is mainly Nigerian.
I could not find a good estimate for the Nigerian Pop here. I saw some estimates as low as 40K and some as high as 100K.
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soon more than Chicago's mexicans 
