Chemical Engineer salary Houston (engineering, average, work)

[tstone]

Originally Posted by 786tech

We can always take an average person off the street and make them into a good bean-counter or skilled craftsman, not the case with engineers!

Ubiquitous engineer arrogance at its finest.

The average person off the street is too soft to be a good skilled craftsman.

And plenty of good "bean-counters" with the gift of gab are engineering and/or project managers.

[crone]

Wow, wages and salaries really have been stagnating over the past 20 years. I kept hearing that and did not believe it. No wonder families need 2 people working.

[bizkitgto]

Originally Posted by tstone

Ubiquitous engineer arrogance at its finest.

The average person off the street is too soft to be a good skilled craftsman.

And plenty of good "bean-counters" with the gift of gab are engineering and/or project managers.

There's too many people out there that think holding a wrench and feeler gauges makes them a journeyman....that couldn't be further from the truth. This appears to be the general public's perception, but for myself as an engineer - I can tell you finding skilled trades (millwright/electrician etc) is becoming a serious issue, as trades are the people who engineer's rely on most for information and troubleshooting help (at least in my industry). Good tradesmen make big bucks and are worth their weight in gold.

[Proud2bPinoy]

Originally Posted by 786tech

We can always take an average person off the street and make them into a good bean-counter or skilled craftsman, not the case with engineers!

Originally Posted by tstone

Ubiquitous engineer arrogance at its finest.

The average person off the street is too soft to be a good skilled craftsman.

And plenty of good "bean-counters" with the gift of gab are engineering and/or project managers.

I LOLed at these.

[tstone]

Originally Posted by bizkitgto

There's too many people out there that think holding a wrench and feeler gauges makes them a journeyman....that couldn't be further from the truth. This appears to be the general public's perception, but for myself as an engineer - I can tell you finding skilled trades (millwright/electrician etc) is becoming a serious issue, as trades are the people who engineer's rely on most for information and troubleshooting help (at least in my industry). Good tradesmen make big bucks and are worth their weight in gold.

Agreed 100%.

The engineers who speak like 786 are likely recent college grads or 100% desk jockeys with little or no experience overseeing what they design actually come out of the ground, which means no experience interfacing with the people who make it happen. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But to "demand better wages" one needs experience from both sides, which means stepping out of your comfort zone for awhile. There honestly are not a whole lot of office-type engineers who can (will) do that, and many who try it out scurry back as fast as they can to their cush cubicle chair.

[Texas User]

Aren't there CE's that don't have a degree and make over 6 figure?

[Proud2bPinoy]

Originally Posted by Texas User

Aren't there CE's that don't have a degree and make over 6 figure?

there used to be a lot during the oil and gas boom about 3 to 4 yrs ago. a lot of piping and civil designers/draftsman making more than $100k+/yr.

i'm sure there are still many right now but most of them hold lead or area lead positions.

[Oildog]

Originally Posted by Texas User

Aren't there CE's that don't have a degree and make over 6 figure?

Rather difficult to be a CE, assuming you mean Civil Engineer, without a degree or PE license. Typically they make a bit less than Chemical or Electrical Es.

[786tech]

Ok Ok, I was a bit unreasonable about the "anybody of the street" comment. My apologies to the accountants and craftsmen.

Going back to the original post, my lead engineer is a PhD. No idea how much he makes, but he is the only one in our department (EPC firm). I guess most of them work for the operating companies doing research (higher salaries I would imagine).

[Walexy]

Does anyone know if exxon Mobil pays signing bonus to new experienced hire.