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Old 10-27-2010, 04:13 PM
 
Location: 77059
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I would stem to guess that it's not "illegal" given that I have seen signs that explicitly say NO Right Turn On Red (being 2 lanes or not). THere's one of these signs down the street from me. The right lane is turn only, the middle lane is right turn or straight. I have also seen signs that specifically say Right On Red From Right Lane Only. There is a sign like this in downtown right near Minute Maid Park. If it were illegal, then there not be these particular signs.
Similar situation, Clear Lake City Blvd west, turning north onto I-45 has one right-turn only and one that is marked either right-turn or straight. Nearly everyone turns right on red from both lanes. During the morning rush *most* people stay out of that dual-use lane if they're going straight. The cops are not giving tickets for this and there are no signs. As far as I'm concerned it was designed to move traffic off the street ASAP and there's nothing dangerous about it.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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Exactly! If is considered safe to turn right on red for the first lane, then why would be not safe to turn right from the second ( designed to turn right) lane??
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:26 PM
 
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Turning right on red from any lane other than the rightmost lane is 100% illegal. Whether people do it "all the time" or not doesn't change that.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:27 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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And where is the rule?? And for what reason is the second lane marked to turn right if you cannot turn right from there?
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Similar situation, Clear Lake City Blvd west, turning north onto I-45 has one right-turn only and one that is marked either right-turn or straight. Nearly everyone turns right on red from both lanes. During the morning rush *most* people stay out of that dual-use lane if they're going straight. The cops are not giving tickets for this and there are no signs. As far as I'm concerned it was designed to move traffic off the street ASAP and there's nothing dangerous about it.
Well, like a previous poster said, the guy in the rightmost lane can't see if it is clear to go if someone in the middle lane has pulled out in preparation to turn. All he can do is go at the same time the other guy goes with the assumption that if it is safe for the middle lane guy to go then it is also safe for him to go.
The main reason it is illegal in Florida (Miami specifically) is that people nefver turn into the correct lane. If two lanes are turing right, even on a green light, peopel often turn in to the wrong lane and end up cutting off the other driver. As a result, we have very few lanes like this but they seem to be more common here.
If I ever see a cop I'll ask them but cops are also super rare in this city. I actually counted and saw less than 30 police cars in my first month here. Normall I'd see six to seven times that number in Miami, given the same number of miles driven.
Oh, thanks for the responese, even though we don't have a definate answer.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:34 PM
 
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Exactly! If is considered safe to turn right on red for the first lane, then why would be not safe to turn right from the second ( designed to turn right) lane??
Because you're turning across two lanes of oncoming traffic AND having to keep an eye on the person in the right lane who is also turning... not to mention that the guy entering the intersection in front of you could also be making a left turn into exactly the same spot that you're turning into and it's even harder to see him if you're worried about oncoming traffic from your left.

So now you have to pay attention to three different danger zones in opposite directions all around your vehicle.

That said, it's even more dangerous for the guy in the right lane because now you're blocking his view and not paying attention to him, either.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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And where is the rule?? And for what reason is the second lane marked to turn right if you cannot turn right from there?
Because it's a red light. You're free to turn right on the green light.

Put it another way: why not just roll on straight through the intersection on a red light if those lanes are marked to go straight anyway? That's the exact question you're asking.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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Because it's a red light. You're free to turn right on the green light.

Put it another way: why not just roll on straight through the intersection on a red light if those lanes are marked to go straight anyway? That's the exact question you're asking.
Exactly. Great point.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:53 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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ok, then what the driver on the second designated for right turn lane is supposed to do?
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:54 PM
 
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ok, then what the driver on the second designated for right turn lane is supposed to do?
Wait for the green light, obviously.
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