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Unread 10-27-2010, 03:58 PM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston
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Originally Posted by Cottonmather0 View Post
Because it's a red light. You're free to turn right on the green light.

Put it another way: why not just roll on straight through the intersection on a red light if those lanes are marked to go straight anyway? That's the exact question you're asking.
There is a difference between going straight through red light and turning right when that is allowed.
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Unread 10-27-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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There is a difference between going straight through red light and turning right when that is allowed.
But turning right at a red light from a middle lane is NOT allowed. You are just trying to argue that it should be, which is exactly like arguing that you should be allowed to go straight.
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Unread 10-27-2010, 04:04 PM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston
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Wait for the green light, obviously.
So, you are telling me that when we have two right turn lanes only the drivers on rightmost line can turn right on red, and the drivers on the second line, that also want to turn red have to wait for green?? Would you, please back up that with a regulations?

... just curious
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Unread 10-27-2010, 04:05 PM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston
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But turning right at a red light from a middle lane is NOT allowed. You are just trying to argue that it should be, which is exactly like arguing that you should be allowed to go straight.
OK, then I am wrong.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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Texas statutes regarding right-on-red:


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Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.



Sec. 544.007. TRAFFIC-CONTROL SIGNALS IN GENERAL.
(d) An operator of a vehicle facing only a steady red signal shall stop at a clearly marked stop line. In the absence of a stop line, the operator shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. A vehicle that is not turning shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown. After stopping, standing until the intersection may be entered safely, and yielding right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and other traffic lawfully using the intersection, the operator may:
(1) turn right; or
(2) turn left, if the intersecting streets are both one-way streets and a left turn is permissible.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Turning right on red from any lane other than the rightmost lane is 100% illegal. Whether people do it "all the time" or not doesn't change that.
Then why are there No Right Turn On Red, or Right Turn from Right Lane Only signs at certain intersections??? If it were 100% illegal, then there wouldn't be a sign anywhere saying dictating when it's NOT okay (because it's illegal).
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Unread 10-28-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Originally Posted by Cottonmather0 View Post
Because it's a red light. You're free to turn right on the green light.

Put it another way: why not just roll on straight through the intersection on a red light if those lanes are marked to go straight anyway? That's the exact question you're asking.
The transportation code explicitly permits turning right on red after a complete stop, unless a sign indicates otherwise. It does not permit proceeding straight through a red light. They are two completely different situations.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Turning right on red from any lane other than the rightmost lane is 100% illegal. Whether people do it "all the time" or not doesn't change that.
What is legal or not legal is determined solely by the transportation code and compliant signage. What you or anyone else claims to be or wants to be illegal doesn't change that. Feel free to cite the statute in the transportation code (link provided earlier) that makes it illegal.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Texas statutes regarding right-on-red:
And one should note in that statute there is NO mention of right on red only applying to the right-most lane, in fact no mention of which lane at all.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Because you're turning across two lanes of oncoming traffic AND having to keep an eye on the person in the right lane who is also turning... not to mention that the guy entering the intersection in front of you could also be making a left turn into exactly the same spot that you're turning into and it's even harder to see him if you're worried about oncoming traffic from your left.

So now you have to pay attention to three different danger zones in opposite directions all around your vehicle.
I guess you don't drive much on multi-lane freeways in Houston.

Actually, you're supposed to keep an eye on your left and right and front and behind, at all time. FOUR danger zones, omg, how do we ever make it home?
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