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Old 08-22-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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Birth canal.

Just saying
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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You're going to think I'm full of it...but really, Houston.

Why? It has the best COMBINATION of all the things I like, and the negatives are not too bad. Faint praise? Not really.

I love individual things about other places much better.

The climate in LA can't be beaten. Cool, dry most of the year, sunny southern California..."swimming pools, movie stars..." Traffic here is NOTHING like traffic in LA, which approaches total gridlock multiple hours per day; and, of course, it costs 3 times as much to live there.

New York is simply the center of civilized life on the planet. It's by far the coolest place I've ever lived. When you live in New York, you just EXPECT everything to be the best available on the planet (and in a lot of cases, you're right). But, as I've said elsewhere on this forum, you have to be willing to walk from your shoebox/closet apartment with a view of the airshaft (maybe when you get to the million dollar level you can have a decent-sized apartment in a decent area, with a doorman and a super who actually answers when you call...) down the street, getting splashed with slushy black water by the bus as you make your way to the subway stop, where you and everybody else in New York ride the subway to work.

Arkansas is scenically fantastic. The long, low ridges of the Ozark plateau really are majestic. Very friendly people--as long as you were born there, raised there all your life, went to high school with them, and didn't move away. If that applies to you, then you don't live in Houston, but you are accepted by them. If not---they'll always be nice and friendly, but you will NEVER be really accepted.

Minneapolis/St. Paul is also very friendly, but has the same problem as Arkansas; if you're not FROM there, you'll rarely have friends. There are some Minnesotans (like some Texans) who are still fighting the Civil War ("You're from the South, therefore you are prejudiced!" "Who, me? Hey, lady, that was 100 years before I was born, you've got to be kidding!" "No, southerners are all evil and prejudiced." Well, okeydokey, not sure how to overcome that one...). Spring, Summer, and Fall are delightful in Minnesota---all 3 weeks, one week each. The rest of the time, it's winter. I've never been so cold and lonely in my entire life.

I actively hated Nashville. Aside from the above comments about "if you didn't grow up there, they don't want you", I just thought it a pushy, bumptious little town with little to recommend it. I'm not a country music fan, so that was a problem; it's big enough to have traffic jams and urban problems, but too little to have any of the "good stuff" of living in a city.

Atlanta is just far too "Precious". It combines the snootery of Dallas with the prejudice of a small town in Arkansas and Tennessee with the traffic of Houston and no infrastructure (aside from MARTA, the roads are tiny, insufficient, and go nowhere). None of these things stop the Atlantans from having an exceedingly high opinion of themselves and their city.

Dallas, in which I was born and spent the first 6 years of my life and part of my 20's; Ft. Worth, my formative years, teenager; Arlington, later in life as an adult. We've fought the Dallas vs. Houston battles endlessly on here. Bottom line, for me: it really IS snooty there; they are VERY class-conscious and there is a fair amount of prejudice there (I was amazed last week listening to an old friend of mine from Farmer's Branch talking about keeping the "Messkins" out. He means anyone with brown skin and a spanish accent, regardless of whether they're from Mexico or 6th generation Texan whose ancestors fought for Texas Independence. He's a degreed professional, too, not some ignorant redneck. Really? Really? In 2010? That level of prejudice?).

A quick Dallas story: in my younger years, I (like a lot of other people) went to the bars a lot. A friend of mine was -less financially successful- than most of us, but a nice guy, nice person. He managed to snag a Ralph Lauren shirt at a big sale somewhere (this was when Ralph Lauren was still a pretty big deal), and wore it to the bar very proudly one night. Sweet young thing, dressed to the 9's as only Dallas can, walks up to him, looks at this -new- shirt, audibly sniffs!!! and says, "Oh. Last year's stripe!" and walks off. LIKE ANYBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND KNOWS -or cares- WHAT STRIPES RALPH LAUREN IS PUTTING ON SHIRTS??!?! The definition of shallow, but that's Dallas.

So yes, the traffic here sucks---but not as bad as LA. No, we don't have mass transit--but then, I don't have to stand shoved in the subway so packed that my face is shoved into the armpit of a big guy who hasn't had a bath in a week and somebody (who?! can't see, too tight) groping me. Nope, sorry, no mountains in Houston (but we do have a beach!). Is the beach as nice as Florida? Nope. Is my job here nicer than anything I could get in Florida? Yep. I'm sitting here complaining about 50 degree temps (and I guarantee you, if it's still this cold Sunday, the old ladies will be wearing the minks at church), while in Minnesota, they are digging out from 17 inches of snow.

Meanwhile, Houston is the friendliest place I've ever lived. I have lived in my house 3 years and know all my neighbors. NEVER had that ANYWHERE, not even in Arkansas. I'm a white, middle-aged, divorced, moderate-to-liberal, degreed professional male; two of them are white, native Houstonians, one couple is from Hong Kong, one is from the Phillipines, there's a nice older gay couple down the street (they're from Dallas), there are several African American families and Hispanic families on the street; the lady two doors down is 90; two doors the other way is a 30-ish white couple with 2 adorable kids; you see American flags in yards, along with banners from all the Big 12, SEC, and Big 10 schools (mine's Arkansas, GO HOGS! BEAT "THE" OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY!)--we've got the classic "Houston mix" here--and everybody just gets along. The neighborhood is expensive enough that most of the folks here are pretty affluent--all same socioeconomic level--but the colors of the rainbow.

And not one of them knows what "last year's stripe" is.
You know a post is good when it's this long and you read it to the end!

You have encapsulated the essence of Houston pretty awesomely.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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Malvie, my bayou buddy, I think all this green space in the city we live on levels people out.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Houston (I was born there) --> Texas Hill Country (where my family moved to and I went to high school there) --> College Station (where I went to College) --> Corpus Christi (I did an internship there for just over a year, this is my 2nd favorite place I've lived) --> College Station (to spend one more semester and graduate) --> Houston (worked there for two years) --> NYC is current and favorite location, I go to grad school here and I never want to leave
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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Caracas, Venezuela > Went to college in Missouri > first job in Kansas City > St. Louis > San Antonio, TX, was layed off in 2011 > After 1 month unemployed, got a job in Houston
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Paradise - central CA coast
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Houston (West University then Hedwig Village) -> Nacogdoches -> Nashville -> Flagstaff / Sedona -> Austin -> Vancouver and Prince Rupert BC, Canada -> Santa Barbara -> Santa Monica -> Santa Barbara -> Hamilton and Missoula MT -> Ventura CA -> Santa Paula CA..... and hopefully I'm on my way back home to Houston SOON.


Of course, I've been saying that for a few years and still not there. It's a tough decision, to drag my native Californian family: husband, son, and now my mother-in-law who must move into assisted living somewhere; don't want to move her twice so thinking about making this move very soon.


These people are 20, 62, and 84 years old and have NEVER lived with AC. They're used to sleeping with the windows open, at least on the warmer summer nights, with a couple of blankets. Am I insane? Can they survive? Our son is in a wheelchair and life in hot-cold-rainy weather is more difficult for folks in chairs. Here our life is indoor-outdoor all the time. That's all on one hand.


The other hand - I miss Texans who like Texas. I'm homesick. I've been gone for most of four decades but I visit family there so I haven't completely forgotten what it's like. Tell me we can do this and I won't regret it. We need a Texan size house and yard (we both work from home, have lots of equipment for my son and big wheelchairs work best in big houses), not a tiny CA sixties bungalow - all we can afford here without putting too much into a house. We need extended family nearby - my TX family (there's no other family here in CA now). Can we do it?

And Malvie, I've got to say your's was a great summary of those other cities, and Houston. To still be quoted in it's entirety, a couple of years since you first wrote it I think - pretty cool. Easily Amused - I remember your good suggestions when I was debating this "move to Houston" thing a long time ago, and here you are still. That's nice somehow.
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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IL .... MN.... Phoenix,AZ.... Multi location,CA.... Boston, MA...... E. Machias, ME..... Memphis,TN...... CUBA......

KeyWest, FL...... SC..... and now hopefully Houston

Been wanting to move to Houston area for over a year now and opportunity is finally here. Wish my family was excited about it as I am. I love moving and think Houston has lots to offer.
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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These people are 20, 62, and 84 years old and have NEVER lived with AC. They're used to sleeping with the windows open, at least on the warmer summer nights, with a couple of blankets. Am I insane? Can they survive? Our son is in a wheelchair and life in hot-cold-rainy weather is more difficult for folks in chairs. Here our life is indoor-outdoor all the time. That's all on one hand.
Nothing better than this when you live in a hot place without A/C

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