day laborers (health insurance, buy, tax)

[TimBomb]

Originally Posted by HoustonRonnie

We have day laborers because black men and white men won't do the job intended for $10/hour. If you think they will, then you're delusional.

Ronnie

and homeowners today are little princess' who cant even roll a brush or carry 5lb sack of mulch at a time

[DanielWayne]

Originally Posted by Sunderpig

This doesn't have to devolve into ranting or anything political. It's a national and social issue that goes way beyond politics.

Hiring illegal workers is both illegal and counterproductive for this country. Just like buying Chinese products (and sending money out of the US), many times illegals also send money out of the US.

Why not help our country and hire a legal American citizen? It helps with the out-of-control problem of unemployment, and also keeps the money here, to recirculate in and strengthen OUR economy (not others). You can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

True. Agree completely.

Taxpayers pay for the health care and even college education for illegal immigrants who in turn often send money back home. By hiring illegals, you may save a few bucks for your construction job, but in the grand scheme of things you are really helping to persist the problems with our present economy. I understand that everyone has to put food on their table (that's why people come here illegally), but bending the rules for your own personal monetary benefit actually hurts other legal US citizens. You are saving a few bucks at the expense of the family down the street that has been looking for work for months.

[David Dollar]

I will hire those guys at the Mexican Embassy, I mean Home Depot any day over an American worker. Sorry, you get what you pay for, and I will pay for somebody who will WORK.

[ethanw]

I wouldn't necessarily generalize. Every weekend I have a project around the house. For instance:

1. Replaced one of the valves on my sprinkler vacuum breaker that cracked last winter but it didn't leak water. It was quite involved for a guy who is not a plumber but after 2 tries I got it right putting the PVC pipes and connectors together. Cost of parts $27. Cost of labor, free. Quote from a friendly American plumber $200. A reasonable quote should be around $100

2. Connected my NG smoker to the gas line that I already had installed for that purpose. Cost parts $30. Cost of labor, free. Quote from the same friendly American plumber $125, A reasonable quote should be around $50

3. Installed an extra water bib in my backyard connecting straight into the main sprinkler line. After mastering putting the PVC parts together it was an easy one this time. Cost of parts $20. Cost of labor, free. Quote from the same friendly American plumber $150, A reasonable quote should be around $75

I am not scared nor afraid of taking care of my own stuff. The stuff you do yourself is that stuff that is done RIGHT. But there is some heavy lifting stuff that I don't mind giving the business to someone else. For instance digging holes for 16 trees in my backyard, that I won't do.

Originally Posted by TimBomb

and homeowners today are little princess' who cant even roll a brush or carry 5lb sack of mulch at a time

[Glucorious]

Originally Posted by TimBomb

and homeowners today are little princess' who cant even roll a brush or carry 5lb sack of mulch at a time

So true. They won't touch anything because they are afraid their man boobs will get all sweaty, start to wobble and cause an earthquake.

Originally Posted by David Dollar

I will hire those guys at the Mexican Embassy, I mean Home Depot any day over an American worker. Sorry, you get what you pay for, and I will pay for somebody who will WORK.

Well, then consider yourself fired.

Originally Posted by texasfirewheel

I must admit that I was always leery of using the guys who hang out at Home Depot and other places. But then my brother-in-law, who was re-doing my entire front yard, picked up a couple of them at the local Home Depot.

Those guys worked all day and did very hard manual labor, removing old tree stumps, etc for $10/hour each. I was amazed at how hard they worked. We got their phone numbers and will use them for more yard work next month.

Dosen't the constitution prohibit slavery? And, I thought "under the table" wasn't quite legal, either.

[TFW46]

In the grand scheme of things, day laborers are apparently inconsequential.

If they were really such a threat to our safety and lifestyle, the police would be out there arresting anyone who drives up to Home Depot or other like places and loads up some guys into his/her car.

I'd rather have the police arresting the thugs who dont want to work and resort to crime (of which there is plenty in my area) as a means of "earning" money.

[AlfredB1979]

Originally Posted by Sunderpig

This doesn't have to devolve into ranting or anything political. It's a national and social issue that goes way beyond politics.

Hiring illegal workers is both illegal and counterproductive for this country. Just like buying Chinese products (and sending money out of the US), many times illegals also send money out of the US.

Why not help our country and hire a legal American citizen? It helps with the out-of-control problem of unemployment, and also keeps the money here, to recirculate in and strengthen OUR economy (not others). You can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

You mean you don't support the American company whose US address is stamped on those boxes of fine cheap goods? I would bet the house--if I was a betting man--that not as much of that money goes to the average Chinamen than into a stockholder's pockets, but I digress...

I will admit that several years back a friend and I hired some day laborers from the I-10/Uvalde Home Depot. I know, I know...we should have kicked in doors to find some American citizens who needed a job who hadn't gotten out of bed yet. You know, because painting 10,00 square feet of roof was going to pay a local's bills for the long term. Sure.

[kreeyax]

Originally Posted by ethanw

I am not scared nor afraid of taking care of my own stuff. The stuff you do yourself is that stuff that is done RIGHT. But there is some heavy lifting stuff that I don't mind giving the business to someone else. For instance digging holes for 16 trees in my backyard, that I won't do.

Yeah, TimBomb mentioned a 5lb. sack of mulch. I just had 5 cubic yards of mulch put in my beds. That much mulch would have taken me the better part of a weekend to install. It was well worth the $300 I paid the landscape company.

[recuerdeme]

Originally Posted by kathy008

where can you find day laborers in Conroe, TX

In conroe they are off of frazier and like ave g or something.

behind the ez pawn.

just drive around that area and you'll see them.
frazier & 2854 and go south on frazier

[TimBomb]

Originally Posted by kreeyax

Yeah, TimBomb mentioned a 5lb. sack of mulch. I just had 5 cubic yards of mulch put in my beds. That much mulch would have taken me the better part of a weekend to install. It was well worth the $300 I paid the landscape company.

is mulch your ground cover literally?