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Unread 01-16-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Jones play completely changed the momentum of the game and put the Texans behind and they could never recover. Yates didn't play well, but it was just his eighth game as a QB. He still made some pretty good throws and escaped pressure nicely. Can't wait to see what he'll look like with an actual offseason with the coaching staff. Schaub might be on the PUP list to start the season, so Yates may start the first six games.

But Jacoby has got to go. A four year veteran in this league should not be making the mistakes that he is making. Basically gifted the Ravens 7 points since the ball was on the one yard line. He has not improved since his rookie year. Texans can draft a WR in the first round (Alshon Jeffrey please) and put Walter as the #3.

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If he's so terrible, why did the coach make him play instead of anybody else?
Because Gary Kubiak has coddled Jacoby Jones and has too much faith for him, for the little reward Jacoby may even have. It finally bit Kubiak in the ass on Sunday (almost twice).

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If you have ever played sports competetively, you'd all understand that ANY athlete, will have had a crappy day where nothing goes right, or have made a bad blunder, especially under pressure and all eyes on you. You would also understand that in near freezing weather, muscles tighten, lungs, face and ears burn and in general it affects how you play if you're not acclimated like the texans who is used to warmer weather. Not that they should use weather as an excuse, but given the circumstances, I think they did a good job. You can tell they didn't have the same momentum and mojo as in the previous game, but they had some great plays out there.
The defense disagrees with you. That young, nasty defense is going to be a force for the 20-teens. As long as the world doesn't end.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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Jones play completely changed the momentum of the game and put the Texans behind and they could never recover. Yates didn't play well, but it was just his eighth game as a QB. He still made some pretty good throws and escaped pressure nicely. Can't wait to see what he'll look like with an actual offseason with the coaching staff. Schaub might be on the PUP list to start the season, so Yates may start the first six games.
Since he has a quicker release than Dan Marino, the sky is the limit!

Cut Schaub!
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Unread 01-16-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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Just about everyone played a great game except for Yates and Jacoby. Yates errors are understandable and fixable. jacoby is a 5 year veteran who gave the game away. I usually don't dwell on losses or blame one person but in this case, it was clear as day it was all on him.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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If you have ever played sports competetively, you'd all understand that ANY athlete, will have had a crappy day where nothing goes right, or have made a bad blunder, especially under pressure and all eyes on you. You would also understand that in near freezing weather, muscles tighten, lungs, face and ears burn and in general it affects how you play if you're not acclimated like the texans who is used to warmer weather. Not that they should use weather as an excuse, but given the circumstances, I think they did a good job. You can tell they didn't have the same momentum and mojo as in the previous game, but they had some great plays out there.
Great athletes can focus and visualize to block out obstacles in that moment. They don't let doubt creep into their minds. That is the difference.

Brady or Viniteri in the snow. Curt Schilling and his bloody ankle in the WS. Kobe and his current broken wrist with 4 straight 40-point games. Jordan dropping 38 with a 103 fever in the Finals.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Since he has a quicker release than Dan Marino, the sky is the limit!

Cut Schaub!
I don't know who would want to cut Schaub and yes, Yates does have a quick release like Marino did.

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Great athletes can focus and visualize to block out obstacles in that moment. They don't let doubt creep into their minds. That is the difference.

Brady or Viniteri in the snow. Curt Schilling and his bloody ankle in the WS. Kobe and his current broken wrist with 4 straight 40-point games. Jordan dropping 38 with a 103 fever in the Finals.
Who here, even before this game, thought Jacoby Jones was a great athlete (besides maybe Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith). He is an average receiver and punt returner at best.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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I don't know who would want to cut Schaub and yes, Yates does have a quick release like Marino did.
You're willing to trade a QB that threw for more yards combined than Brady, Rodgers and Brees in 2009 and 2010 for a pick because of Yates. Must be that noodle arm.

The only thing Yates should be mentioned along in the same breath as Marino is the number he wears.

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Unread 01-16-2012, 06:15 PM
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There is a difference in not playing well(T.J Yates) and playing stupid(Jones)....the latter is not so acceptable.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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It was a mistake of a play, but most importantly, it's just a game. Move the F on.

I wish someone would throw a flaming jersey on my lawn. I bet their mama would get a bloody body on hers.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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You're willing to trade a QB that threw for more yards combined than Brady, Rodgers and Brees in 2009 and 2010 for a pick because of Yates. Must be that noodle arm.

The only thing Yates should be mentioned along in the same breath as Marino is the number he wears.
Where did I say that? The only thing I've said before is that if Yates continues to play well, then the Texans could look at trading Schaub. Yates didn't continue playing well and hit the rookie wall. He only played eight games after running the scout team after there was no offseason. No one knows what his ceiling is. At worst, he is a capable backup.

And Schaub is really a system QB. There is nothing special that he does. He's all stats, like Drew Bledsoe. He can't get away from pressure, he DOES have a noodle arm (how many times has AJ and other receivers had to stop and wait on Schaub's throws), and he's still good for a pick a game. He is no where near the level of Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or both Mannings. With experience in the system and an actual offseason, I think Yates can do what Schaub has done.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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No really. Jacoby is terrible. We would have won the game if not for the muffed punt.

The two INTs in the 4th didn't help, but that happens. Muffed punts aren't supposed to happen. And it lead to a raven TD.
Maybe, maybe not.

The Texans were in their game winning drive when Yates threw the INT.

Had Yates not thrown that last INT, the Texans would easily be playing the Patriots.
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